Phil Jackson has won ELEVEN titles running the Triangle (AKA "pinch post offense"). Doesn't that tell you something? Advantages of the triangle are: * it makes role players useful - Steve Kerr owes his career to it * it involves everybody, which is probably why the whole team is prepared to put in more effort * it minimizes the need for traditional PGs * it appears to be ideally suited to multi-talented scoring guards, like Jordan, Bryant and... Roy. The 72 win Bulls started Jordan and an old knee-less Ron Harper in the backcourt and brought Steve Kerr off the bench. Meanwhile, the Lakers' 5 titles have come with Derek "bumped to the bench by Steve Blake" Fisher as a starter. Apart from Andre Miller, we have a pretty much ideal roster for the triangle. We have Roy, first of all, but we also have three large, non-traditional guards in Rudy, Bayless and now Matthews, all of whom could play alongside Roy if we ran a triangle. Should we? The downside is that nobody else has been able to institute it successfully. Of course, nobody with a player like Roy has tried. It would be a way to keep Batum and Rudy (assuming he stays) a lot happier, and minimize Rudy's weaknesses (Fisher isn't exactly a great ball-handler, and Harper couldn't penetrate at all by then.)
We have the talent to run this. When you don't have the talent the Triangle offense is atrocious! (Minnesota Timberwolves, for example)
Roy would be perfectly suited for the triangle. I remember reading before the 2006 draft something about Phil wanting to somehow get Roy, because he wanted him at PG in the triangle.
Dang, it does seem like our roster is a perfect fit. Other than Miller, of course. But even with him, you can run him in the post more. There just aren't any coaches out there who are successful at implementing it, other than Phil Jackson. If for some reason he ever decided to pick up and leave LA for Portland, I could see him really succeeding with it here. (I can also see a lot of Portland fans setting themselves on fire.)
Argh - I never even thought of that... But as you said, Marcus is a very good passer, and we need him more. Doesn't Tex "inventor of the Triangle Offense" Winter live in Oregon? Is he too old and sick even to consult these days?
First ya need smart players... we have them... Roy, Batum, Matthews, LA and Camby Need good spacing... we don't have that... Need a coach that wants this system and knows how to coach it too.... Moving on...... Nate is the biggest question mark on this team because he thinks his offense works.... I agree the triangle was made for this team.....
When guys finally start setting good, hard picks we can talk about adjusting the style of the offense, until that happens everything is pretty much lipstick on a pig.
I hate Nate, and his offense with a passion, but Phillip has won titles because he has had Jordan, Pippen, Shaq, Kobe and Pau on his team.
Tex lives in West Salem, I see him at the store every other month or so. He's surprisingly candid whenever I've talked to him, though I try not to bug him every time I see him. He's limited his role because of the health of his wife.
So what you're getting at is that we need to have arguably 3 of the best players to play in the last 30 years, one of the best SF's to play in the last 30 years, and a player who benefits greatly from being on that team.
The triangle takes more than one season to put in place and the players have to embrace it. Most of the time I've seen it implemented, the star player has had huge problems accepting it. You don't need big guys who can pass, though it helps. The Bulls were successful running it with Jordan in the post. The great thing about PJax is his ability to sell the players on running the offense, and he seems to get the most out of everyone on his roster.