Bulls are about to hire Ed Pickney

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  1. truebluefan

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    Never heard of him.
     
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    Mee Needer.
     
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    I remember an Ed Pinckney on the Suns a long time ago.
     
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    It's gotta be him.

    Looks like KC doesn't know how to spell his name :)
     
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    You guys have never heard of him? He is an NCAA legend on those Villanova teams of the mid-80's.
     
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    I've never heard of Ed Pickney.
     
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    Pinkney.
     
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    That is a fact! Thank you.
     
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    It's too bad the Bulls ever gave Cartwright the head coaching gig. He was a horrific head coach, and actually quite a good big man coach. I remember that Curry, Bagaric and Chandler all had post moves when they worked with him, which have long since disappeared. Let's hope we see similar development under Pinkney.
     
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    He is now the Bulls big man coach.
     
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    Big Foam Denny Crane!
     
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    I could have sworn I wrote a reply to you yesterday. I think Cartwright, being a big man who saw the game from that perspective actually set them up and used what they learned. In a nutshell, I don't think Skiles (or Vinny or most small guy coaches) have too much understanding of the game from a big's perspective. They're either to move to a position on the court where they become an assist, or they're props to facilitate the motion of the guards from that perspective. I know that's a simplification that's not entirely fair, but it seems pretty accurate as to why Cartwright did that.

    So, um, maybe that's why he was such a terrible head coach :)
     
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    Yeah, Cartwright would always establish his big men at the beginning of games like Phil Jackson did. I actually liked how Skiles used Curry, with all those little cuts in the lane, but it wasn't the same thing. Speaking more generally in terms of skill development: I'm not certain if there's a place for back to the basket moves from a plodding center anymore. But I like the idea of our centers learning those skills. I have to imagine centers can draw on those moves when they pull a board and have to make a quick move around the hoop.
     
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    Noah has a credible drop step, but I agree with the general thinking about those skills being obsolescent as a way to tailor your whole game. That may have been a big part of Mr. Bill's problem. He was so locked in to thinking that way he didn't realize how crazy it sounded to say an ideal game for Jay Williams or Jamal Crawford was 6 points and 12 assists. Say what you will about them, but at least play to their strengths.
     
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    Cartwright was a triangle coach and Krause wanted the triangle. He barely got a chance to get the players used to playing in that system, and he wasn't exactly given guys who could be the post players in that offense. Like Curry could have been if he figured out how to pass out of a double team.
     
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    To this day Curry struggles with passing out of a single team, let alone a double team. He may be one of the worst passing big men I've ever witnessed who wasn't a one or two season NBA wash out.
     

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