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  1. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    http://packersnews.greenbaypressgaz...kers-replace-injured-Harrell-with-Jurius-Wynn

    I'm a huge Packers fan and it breaks my heart that this Justin Harrell kid has endured yet another season ending injury, but sometimes these big bodies just break down and aren't meant to take the pounding they do in a professional sports.

    I know football is a much more violent game and injuries are a much bigger part of that sport compared to basketball, but if some of you wonder why I have such skepticism about Oden, all I can say is that, "I've seen this movie before."

    Hopefully we get the Disney-fied ending instead of the depressing Director's cut.
     
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    Big difference is that football has 7 rounds of drafts and there are about 20 first round busts every year because so many of them are crap shoots and so many of the guys end up injured anyway. So you just never know.

    Basketball it is so much more rare to actually have an injury that matters, that you really never see it. Just look at the history of consensus #1 overall picks other than Blake Griffin and Oden: Rose, Dwight Howard, LeBron James, Tim Duncan, Allen Iverson, Shaq, David Robinson, Patrick Ewing, Hakeem, Worthy, Magic, Kareem, etc.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    It would be just our luck that we pick one of the few busts as the #1 pick.
     
  4. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    The washout rate for 1st round picks in the NFL isn't nearly as high as you make it out, in fact if you're taken in the top 10 (like Harrell was) you're supposed to be considered a pretty good bet to be a future pro-bowler. And you're confusing the issue here; I'm not really worried about draft position, I'm talking about propensity for injuries. If Harrell hadn't endured such a rotten string of luck with an apparent stretch of completely unrelated injuries, he had the physical profile of a dominant or at least very good defensive end coming out of Tennessee.
     
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    Seems to me the last sentence should have been the one in bold.

    "Harrell was an injury risk from the start. He missed all but three games of his final college season at Tennessee because of a torn biceps tendon, an injury that limited him as a rookie in 2007."

    That's why I maintain that anyone who says Oden isn't injury prone because his injuries appear unrelated, well, they don't know **** on the topic. There's no logical connecting of the dots with proneness to injury. Some people are just screwed.
     
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    If you flip heads five times in a row, what are the chances you get heads on the sixth flip?

    50/50, the past doesn't define the future my friend. Try leaving the past where it belongs and you might be happier because of it....
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I've had this conversation before, but bodies/people aren't coin flips, we have mortal, breakable bodies and some people have more fragile physiques than others.
     
  8. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    FWIW:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30710797/wid/11915773?GT1=31037
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Well, no shit Sherlock.

    I could have told you that. I'm in that group.

    barfo
     
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    You really should have clued in kpee...
     
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    I'd agree. But I'd be very sceptical if it isn't tied 99% with diet and exercise. If you took 10,000 athletes who were all under 25 years old and had the modern medicines, rehab centers, vitamins and supplements of today's typical athlete, and you even took a broad range of all race and gender say from the Olympics across sports like volleyball, cross country, rowing, track & field, etc., I highly doubt you would find any athletes that get random injuries more than someone else unless they have a pre-existing soft-tissue injury that is suspectible to re-occur because a tendon or ligament or muscle has been damaged in the past and hasn't healed to 100%. Or from some athelete that just simply isn't using the proper mechanics for their sport (like a weightlifter who uses his back, etc.).
     

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