How do you guys feel about the NBA draft? Should you trade your pick for a decent big man which you desperately need? OR should you go ahead and stack more talent on this already young team?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>How do you guys feel about the NBA draft? Should you trade your pick for a decent big man which you desperately need? OR should you go ahead and stack more talent on this already young team?</div>It's quite the dillemma, Perk has to get surgery on his shoulder and I was really looking forward for him to step it up this season. Looks like that probably won't happen. Originally I wanted to trade this pick to get a decent point guard or draft a big man and sign a FA veteran PG. We have so many young guys and we desperately need a veteran guard but a center is essential to this team doing well. If Perk is going to be sidelined, I wouldn't be opposed to trading the pick to acquire a veteran big man with some skill.
Celtic Nation wants Tyrus Thomas, which solves both problems. It's also LIKELY, how bout that eh?Hopefully he doesn't die....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Celtic Nation wants Tyrus Thomas, which solves both problems. It's also LIKELY, how bout that eh?Hopefully he doesn't die....</div>We have two great young power forwards in Ryan Gomes and Al Jefferson. Why the hell would we draft Tyrus Thomas? He's unproven in my opinion and I really think he's getting a tonnnn of unjustified hype. He'll likely be gone before the C's pick anyway.
more unjustifyed then williams, bargnani, and rondo??gomes is the big man version of delonte, he needs to learn to play the SF if he wants serious PT. al jeff didnt prove anything last year. when u have three young VERY talented pf's, teams will come knocking at your door
khaos, you're so easy to give up on everyone, you're saying AL J didn't prove anything in an injury ridden 2nd season out of high school and Gomes (although made an all-rookie team) doesn't impress you at all? He didn't impress you when he had 29 points and 11 rebounds against Chris Webber? How is he a big man version of Delonte? Power forwards can make it in this league even if their 6' 7'', or 6' 8'', look at Elton Brand. Gomes was an absolute steal, he makes his game on hustling and doing the little things other forwards can't. I still say you're overreacting, abandoning ship on your yung's and drafting more yung'z isn't the greatest plan.
my question to you welcome, is do you think ryan will ever start at PF for the C's?and my second question is do you feel comfortable with an unproven highschool kid with bad ankles as your future at the PF spot?my main point is tho, if u have a guy like thomas there at number seven, and the next best is ronnie brewer or rodney carney, you TAKE thomas
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>my question to you welcome, is do you think ryan will ever start at PF for the C's?and my second question is do you feel comfortable with an unproven highschool kid with bad ankles as your future at the PF spot?</div>I don't know if you watch the Celtics.....Gomes was our starting PF for probably the last 20 games of the 05-06 season...And he did pretty damn well at the starting role. Al J definately has question marks but I don't think you just abandon him and draft another PF...we need a center or a pg before a wingman/PF. We have Delonte at PG who may or may not be a PG in his NBA career...and then we have a center who is currently going to undergoe shoulder surgery and then Raef Lafrentz, who is deterioting as every game passes. We need a center or a PG in this draft, personally I would like to see us sign a FA veteran PG and draft a center. Drafting a PF is useless to us in our current situation. Also you keep saying take thomas, I doubt he'll even be available to be selected at the 7th pick, his stock went way up after the NCAA tourney. Reguardless, we don't need another young PF.
This doesnt matter, Tyrus Thomas will be gone when the C's pick anyways. Also, of course the C's would take Thomas, and then they would go right around and trade him because alot of teams would want him. The C's dont need another PF. I say that they either draft sheldon to play the center position, or O'Bryant, or they trade it
gomes played well for a bad inexperienced teamthomas may be there because OTHER stupid teams are drafting for NEED instead of best available, just look at hoopsvibe, THATS a realistic mock
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>gomes played well for a bad inexperienced team</div>so what? so did Paul Pierce.... Gomes was still good and is more adapt to the starting role. Atleast make sense when you try to back your arguments.
and did paul make an all-nba team? nuh-uhits not about the stats, its about the amount of W's that come with the stats
Whatever man this argument is starting to lose it's meaning.The fact of the matter is we currently have more strength at the forward position, that isn't where our problems have been coming from. The guard position is our weak spot, Delonte is definately talented but we need a guard that isn't out there to do some of the things Delonte does well. He scores, makes steals, and can definately be productive but we need someone to run an offense and make a lot of assists. Tyrus Thomas would not be the best draft pick for the Celtics and also there is a 99% chance he will get picked before Boston's pick.
i do agree with you man, my main point was that if thomas is there you take him EVEN if marcus williams is there too. im looking at this from the hoopsvibe mock perspective, teams draft for needs, and we tend to get very lucky in the draft. gerald was a top 8 lock remember? right...i agree that delonte isnt a sure thing at the point, and in terms of talent at the pf spot we are very promising, but im sure one of those 3 guys (thomas, al jeff, gomes) will end up being a backup, one a star, and one who can go either way and can be used as trade bait early on. whats key is figuring out whos who before they lose their value. didnt mean to piss u off or anything
I wasn't pissed it's just I'm not big on Thomas. It seems like he's only a top draft pick because of the NCAA tourney. A lot of guys in the past have had their draft stock rise from great performances in the NCAA tournament. I don't know if he's ready for the NBA.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KhAoS-CelticsFahLyfe @ May 30 2006, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>gomes is the big man version of delonte, he needs to learn to play the SF if he wants serious PT.</div>Why, so he can fight for playing time against the high flying Gerald Green and Wally?If you don't get Marcus Williams or Randy Foye, either trade the pick or go for someone like Patrick O'Bryant. I don't trust O'Bryant though. I'd look to trade it.Is Nene available?
I hate when people say Gomes should be a full-time SF, and at the same time want Allen/Green to get minutes (behind Pierce/Wally, mind you). Gomes is not a SF anyway. Sure, it's great he can pop back and hit a 17 footer, but his style of play is PF. He bangs on the boards (and helps us A LOT), hustles, creates matchup problems with his quickness, and he also can play in the post. I mean come on, we all saw him in college too. He is not a 3. He is an undersized 4, but height is overrated. Ben Wallace is a 6'9'' center while a lot of SF's are 6'8'', and Big Ben is a force in this league. Gomes is a 4, and if we try and develope him as a 3, it will diminish his potential.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I hate when people say Gomes should be a full-time SF, and at the same time want Allen/Green to get minutes (behind Pierce/Wally, mind you). Gomes is not a SF anyway. Sure, it's great he can pop back and hit a 17 footer, but his style of play is PF. He bangs on the boards (and helps us A LOT), hustles, creates matchup problems with his quickness, and he also can play in the post. I mean come on, we all saw him in college too. He is not a 3. He is an undersized 4, but height is overrated. Ben Wallace is a 6'9'' center while a lot of SF's are 6'8'', and Big Ben is a force in this league. Gomes is a 4, and if we try and develope him as a 3, it will diminish his potential.</div> :happy0144: couldn't agree more, the people who want Gomes to be a 3 are sorley mistaken. He's too slow to play the 3 but he's absolutely perfect at the four, he's the type of guy that normal PF's think they will tool on all night because he's small when in reality he's incredibly polished and really tough to read. Gomes is a smart player and the only position he will play in the NBA is a PF. He was an absolute steal at where we drafted him.
Gomes is a beastly 4, and supposedly he is working on his strength and lateral quickness, along with his midrange this summer. He should be much better next year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ Jun 11 2006, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>:happy0144: couldn't agree more, the people who want Gomes to be a 3 are sorley mistaken. He's too slow to play the 3 but he's absolutely perfect at the four, he's the type of guy that normal PF's think they will tool on all night because he's small when in reality he's incredibly polished and really tough to read. Gomes is a smart player and the only position he will play in the NBA is a PF. He was an absolute steal at where we drafted him.</div>since youre so high on both AJ and Gomes, please tell me what we do with two high upside could-be-great with experience PF's?
