GREG ODEN: “IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT I’M A BUST?”

no one has demonstrated they are confused over Greg's contract status and that has never been in question in your repeated hammering this trivial point. This started when you chaffed at 2008-9 being referred to as his rookie year insisting that it should be called his 2nd. If any poster has ever expressed confusion over whether he was under contract in 2007-8 or expressed hopes that that missed year would delay the start of his rookie deal please provide a link. Everyone else here was able to simultaneously grasp when his current contract runs and accept that the league referred to 2008-9 as his rookie year. You've continued to point to this minutia as if you're on to something that only you realize.

Taking this to the next level and calling everyone else crazy is just comedy

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This post reminds me of blind squirrels and broken clocks for some reason.

Not sure why.

 

Really not sure what "advanced" statistics are, but rest assured, if your comparing Shaq's 23.4 ppg, 13.9 rpg, 3.5 bpg in his Rookie campaign to Greg Oden's 8.9 ppg, 7 rpg, 1.1 bpg, your "advanced" statistics are a fuckin' joke. I won't even bother checking out Robinson or Hakeem's rookie stats, I'm sure they all dominate G.O.'s by a fair margin.

The same thing really can be said for the last statement about Oden being ranked higher in more "advanced" stat categories than Durant. If that is the case, they are an absolute joke.

While I can't say positively that Greg Oden will be a bust throughout his career, I will say that at this point he is a bust and will remain so until he proves otherwise. I would say playing a full season, and averaging at least 10/10/2 would do that. But even at that point, considering the statistics and play of the guy drafted #2 the same year, he'd still be a massive disappointment. Really, he was advertised to be Bill Russel #2, so in my opinion anything short of multiple rings and a franchise defensive big man make him a bust.

 

I notice you weren't able to read and comprehend that post. As well as the post where I told you, again, that a player should be judged on their career, thus making Shaq a non-bust. It isn't that hard to grasp, but I see that you are intent on playing the Mixum role.

 

You are SO far above playing semantic games. Please provide a link to where a poster ever questioned whether this was Oden's contract year.

 

You know I've said in the past, I grew up in NE Portland idolizing the Blazers. A hoop junkie growing up here, how could you not? Listened to Schonz on the radio as a kid in the 70's, my parents had BlazerCable in the 80's and the whole neighborhood would come over for games. I now work for them. The fact that I don't bash or complain about every single thing...... I don't think that makes me a homer to be honest. I'm just a life long Blazer fan who keeps it positive. When Joel and Greg went down last season, there was a thread on here asking for predictions on how we'd finish. I said I didn't believe we would even make the playoffs and actually got shit for saying that. I don't understand how I am considered such a homer, I would love to see some examples. I am bias because I am friends with all these people that are being cracked on, but I don't think I've ever actually gone overboard on the whole homer thing.

 

It cracks me up that being labeled a "homer" is about the biggest insult thrown around this place. Given that we're all supposedly Blazers fans, you'd think that we'd have a tendency to, you know, actually want to support our team. I know that doesn't mean wearing rose-colored glasses and blowing sunshine about everything related to the Blazers, but you'd think it would mean having a generally positive mindset about the team. Seems to me that some of you are so damned afraid of being called a homer that you go out of your way to promote a pessimistic point of view about most of our players, coaches and management.

I love the Blazers. I've followed the team since Day 1. I've attended one championship parade. I've suffered through some tough seasons. I'm always in favor of looking for ways to improve the team, but as long as a guy is wearing a Blazers uniform and is working his tail off to do what it takes to win, I'm going to support him. If you want to call me a homer for that, I'll happily accept the label.

 

You don't have to justify your opinions to anyone, especially to Mixum.

 

The internet has pretty much made enjoying ANYTHING impossible, because of constant accusations of homerism and fanboyism for showing the least amount of enthusiasm, optimism, or joy at something. It's fucking stupid being given grief because you're not cynical enough or negative enough to be "cool on the internet". Fuck that noise.

 

Frankly, it was such a preposterous tangent, I lost interest in the post. I'm sorry I missed the brilliance of your reasoning. Based on his career thus far, it's reasonable to conclude that Oden is a bust at this point. It is also reasonable to conclude that he has not been a bust to this point, and that he's been injured. My view is the latter.

 

Am I the only one who finds the whole "HCP-ing!" MIXUM thing a personal attack on the guy? I thought the idea was to attack the post, not the poster.

I don't really care one way or another about most MIXUM's antics. But if the mods want my opinion, they should be editing out that line every time they see it. Just like they should strike it out if MIXUM's handle is used as a derogatory stereotype.

I realize the environ here is purposefully more lax than other boards, which is great. But this style of attack is only going to devolve into worse and worse name-calling, which is no good for the board.

 

I want things to be exactly how I want them to be. People who post differently or hold a different opinion than me make this board hard to visit.

Hold me.

 

You left once before because you couldn't handle things here. Was your post sarcastic or an honest review of your previous actions?

 

if anyone really is confused about a player's contractual status, S2 has a link in the header of every page entitled NBA Salaries

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What are you blathering on about now?

 

Oh, nothing important. Just how you couldn't handle this extremely intense online forum and started whining, disabling your account and coming back with a different user name. And then tried to make it look like it is the other posters can't handle differing opinions.

No big deal.

 

Um, OK. Feel better now? Glad you got that off of your chest.

Anyhoo, back to stupid roundy-rounds, with some red herrings sprinkled in, discussing the crucial topic of "to bust" or "not to bust".

 

Really...because Ive made 2 posts in 2 months I suddenly dont know the norm around here? riiiiiiight....

Mixum is far more right than he is wrong....sure he sticks his neck out on predictions/analysis but at least he has the balls to do so.

He has been spot on on his opinions of the players....who cares if he said the Blazers wouldnt make the playoffs 2 years ago and they did...he was only off by a couple games over an 82 game season so thats accurate enough for me.

People here just think its in fashion to bash MIXUM regardless of his actual points....there are some lemmings around here