ROY comments on our offense - is there a problem here?

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  1. Minstrel

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    So, out of curiosity, do you feel that Roy can be, or should be, the team's long-term point guard? Should the team be grooming or acquiring a true shooting guard to play alongside him, with the assumption that Roy will be directing and distributing on offense?
     
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    One guy i wish we had tried harder to draft is Ty Lawson. He doesn't shoot the three much but was over .400 last year and was .472 in his last year in college. His strength is getting up the court before the defense is set and attacking the basket; if that didn't work i'm sure he would be happy to hand the ball over to Roy. His defense is only limited by his size. However I don't think Denver would have any interest in trading him.
     
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    I don't think Roy should be the PG. I think he needs a defensive-minded PG who can hit an outside shot to become the player I think he can be, if he's healthy. In the interim, I trust the ball more in Roy's hands, with Batum trying to be a Pippen, than I trust Miller running the offense and trying to defend somebody. I may be wrong, though.
     
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    If Roy wants the ball in his hands, he needs to play point guard. That's just my opinion. If Roy moves to the point, Wesley can play two, Nic at the three, etc. Wes could probably defend the opposing point guards. We've been talking about Roy at the point for years. Pretty much since his rookie season. Why not give it a shot?
     
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    Heh
     
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    IF Nic or Wesley show they can defend a quick PG like Rose, Brooks, Westbrook, etc., then I'm all for it, Nate. If not, then we're kind of screwed at this point with Miller trying to guard the quicker PGs, IMO.
     
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    How about Rudy?
     
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    If he had an NBA-caliber handle, maybe. Very few point guards struggle to dribble in traffic.
     
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    Even fewer get away with solely playing passing lanes on defense.
     
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    Boobie Gibson? Kirk Hienrich (who I always thought was a good fit with Roy) or maybe even a guy like Ben Gordon if we are going to go with Roy as the PG route.
     
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    To Minstrel: I was commenting on the possibility of Roy being the PG.
    Since the beginning of summer I said we should consider trimming the backup rotation from 4 to 3.5, I think Miller proved - even before B-Roy's comments - to be the odd man out.
    Not a long time ago I suggested Miller and Dante for Francisco Garcia and Carl Landry of the Kings. Since then, in several pre-season games, both Dante and Carl proved to be keepers for their respective teams. I think a trade of Miller for Garcia straight up works for both teams. It would also give us a trade exception.
     
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    Ben Gordon might be a good choice and he might be attainable right now. Detroit signed him to a large contract and then he had a pretty bad year for them. They might go for a trade of Miller plus Bayless or Miller plus Babbit and Eliot Williams. I would think the Blazers would want to analyze why his three point percentage fell so drastically last year before they make that trade though.
     
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    *nod* I don't think he proved any such thing. I think he was far and away Portland's second-best guard last season, and he and Roy played perfectly well together after Roy came back from injury and until the injury that put Roy out, effectively, for the playoffs.

    Personally, I think people really overstate the idea that Roy and Miller don't fit together. They are not ideally suited to play together, but the inefficiency of their non-ideal fit is nowhere near enough to downgrade the talent by going from Miller to Bayless (as Bayless is currently, I think he'll improve in the future), Matthews or Rudy. Or Francisco Garcia for that matter.
     
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    So if we're screwed anyway, why not choose the option that has Wesley Matthews on the floor? Turn Miller/Joel/Rudy into something worth while and call it good. Or keep Rudy. See if he comes around. Maybe we could turn Miller/Joel/?? into a decent bigman.
     
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    Quick has an article on the quotes: http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2010/10/i_want_the_ball_a_lot_more_all.html

    Some interesting excerpts:
     
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    If Portland intends for Roy to have the ball in his hands more then they are going to have to make some personel changes.

    Namely, they need a point guard who can hit an outside shot.
    Preferably one that isn't as limited in all other facets of the game as Blake was.
     
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