Bayless trade: Yuck or Yay?

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What do you think of the trade of Bayless for a pick?

  1. Yuck!!!!

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  2. Meh.

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  3. Yay!!!

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  1. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I think the term homer is used very loosely here. I dont think that Bayless was anywhere near perfect... but on a relatively soft team.. he was one of the few who always brought it. I hope Matthews is ready to carry a bench scoring role because as constructed our bench lacks firepower IMO. I am not counting on Rudy to be insane all year.
     
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    my thoughts as well.
     
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    I agree that he always brought intensity. I do think Matthews can take on that roll and be better.
     
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    I sure hope that you are right, and that I am wrong on this one.. believe you me :cheers:
     
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    I like the deal. Bayless thought he was a better player than he was. We dont need him with Matthews and I like the potential of Armon. Giving them the PT Bayless may have demanded makes us better. You all know Bayless would cause problems if he wasnt getting the minutes he thinks he deserves.
     
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    Maybe on defense, but we don't know for sure that Matthews is going to be a consistent scorer for this team.
     
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    This reminds me of the Zach Randolph trade. In the end, that trade didn't get us shit, and I have a feeling that this trade will have a similar outcome.
     
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    I don't think Bayless was a consistent scorer at all.
     
  9. Natebishop3

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    That's where his intensity was though.
     
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    Yet, gives opportunity for players who help us win. Addition by subtraction.
     
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    I don't believe in addition by subtraction. I believe in addition by consolidation. I'm not saying we shouldn't have traded Bayless, I'm saying we should have packaged him with something else for a player we could actually use this season.
     
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    This doesn't make sense to me. I am not a believer in "addition by subtraction" generally, but in THIS case? I don't see it.

    If Bayless was taking minutes away from anyone this year, it would have been from inferior (and older or at least not significantly younger) players.

    How is playing guys that wouldn't have been good enough to earn minutes over Bayless going to be a good thing?

    Ed O.
     
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    The protection of this pick is much better than I had thought it was when I voted. I would change my vote from "Yuck" to "Meh".

    Bayless is a potential future all-star, and if that happens we got ripped off. If he's an average starter or less, then it's one we can live with.

    Ed O.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    If the Hornets make the playoffs-even as the 8 seed-you can't expect the pick to be higher than 18 due to the top heavy nature of the East and the fact that last years #8 seed, OKC, had the 21st and could have been 22nd if it weren't for a tiebreaker.
     
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    Man I don't get all the love for what would have been at best our 5th guard. He wasn't going to get any playing time with Roy, Miller, Rudy, and Mathews all ahead of him. Supposedly Armon also moved up so Bayless was 6th best guard on our team, damn we must be loaded to have a future all star so deep on our team. He was a great hustle player but we just picked up a better player in Mathews for that exact thing plus he's better shooter, defender and overall better player.
     
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    Because Bayless is more capable of running the point than Rudy or Matthews. The question is whether Bayless is better than Johnson, but hey, we didn't get to see any of the preseason games so I can't comment one way or another.
     
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    I don't agree. I guess I'm supposed to though, because Bayless is shorter than both those players.
     
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    Which one do you think is a better point guard? Rudy has no handle and Matthews has never been considered a distributor. Bayless may not be a pure point guard, but he CAN pass the ball, and his handle is far superior to either of those players.
     
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    I don't know about Bayless being a better back up PG than Mathews.....maybe regardless Bayless wasn't a good PG either. I have a feeling it's a mute point in that Cho has something up his sleeve for a new PG. Mathews and Rudy were going to need lots of minutes and Bayless was going to be lucky to see 8-10 minutes a game. Hell Roy can play 10 minutes a game as PG.
     

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