The depth the blazers once had is gone and canzano agrees

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  1. MIXUM

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    Let me start by saying im not a huge bayless fan as you all know but he was still our best backup PG. But my bigger concern is roy. If roy goes down and all likelihood is he will miss at least 15 games, who will back him up? Matthews cannot score like bayless can. We will need that offense at times during the season. Thats not the point of this thread. I just feel the Blazers depth is gone. We have no backup PG, no backup PF and FUCKING OBERTO as backup center for god knows how long. As much as webster and bayless were limited, they are very solid backups for a team wanting to make the 2nd round. Now it feels like everything is on a guy with a bad achillies and someone who doesnt want to be here. Throw in a declining center and rookie PG.... and we have some major issues if a starter goes down. Hell i think it safe to say we are 1 bad injury away from lotto. Maybe we can use it cause the talent well (bench) has run real dry. This team also seems like it has taken a step back from expectations like 2nd round. I dont even hear playoff talk anymore from blazers officials no less players. What the fuck is going on there? This season feels very ominous. This trade is a trade that bad teams who don't expect playoffs make.

    Mr Bald Face Truth agrees BTW....



    Again, I do believe in Cho. I think he has a plan. I also think he’s Paul Allen’s correction from a period of franchise history that felt gutsy and ambitious but also too prone to stabbing at air for the billionaire’s taste. So I'm going to give him a shot. I'm just not going to count on him to entertain me with his skills. You shouldn't either.

    Under Cho’s guidance, fans will be asked to be happy with a draft pick, and understand that the long haul is what’s really at stake. And while that makes total sense --- drat. Because the summer started with Blazers fans wishing and dreaming about trading for New Orleans' star point guard, and here we are.

    I’m a little worried about the Blazers this season. They feel paper thin, and insanely reliant upon Roy. Coach Nate McMillan feels like a guy who needs a fast start to gain the confidence of his owner, so I’m looking at the roster and wondering what happens to McMillan should the Blazers sputter out of the gates.

    Even if the Blazers play well, are they really a team capable of winning a playoff series unless they do something radical?

    I keep waiting for Portland to do what they’ve always done, attempt a roster-shifting trade. A real season-shifter. You know, shoot for the moon even if it means hitting a lamppost.

    Then, they go and trade Bayless for a future draft pick.

    The new Blazers era is here. Make sure you get it right. It’s spelled: Cho-time.
     
  2. MIXUM

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    its like who would you rather have????

    bayless, webster OR mathews, johnson, babbit, williams

    bayless and wesbster and its not close
     
  3. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    before today it was Bayless, Matthews, Johnson, Babbit, Williams, Rudy.

    Which I would take over Bayless, Webster and Rudy.

    But I can see concern with our 2 Spot if Roy goes down yes.
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I'm guessing you didn't follow Matthews during the preseason. I would recommend a trip to Blazers.com so you can review the games that Matthews got significant playing time in. You might be pleasantly surprised...
     
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    sorry but ur missing my point.

    miller is an older pg.

    roy has bad knees

    batum has shoulder/neck concerns

    oden, pryz and camby are the most fragile centers in the nba

    miller has a rookie backup

    roy has a guy who hates it here backing him up and was awful as a starter

    batum has matthews (sore achillies)

    la has a undersized sf backing him up

    centers are gimps
     
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    VanillaGorilla Well-Known Member

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    I love your positive spin on things.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    sorry but ur missing my point.

    Fisher is an older pg.

    Kobe has bad knees.

    Steve Blake has shoulder/neck concerns

    Bynum, Ratliff and Gasol are the most fragile centers in the nba

    ....
     
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    Matthews is more talented offensively than Bayless.
     
  9. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Who cares what Canzano agrees with?

    barfo
     
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    VanillaGorilla Well-Known Member

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    Agreed.
     
  11. Jayps15

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    Last year we rolled out starting lineups the likes of Miller/Bayless/Webster/Aldridge/Howard, Miller/Roy/Webster/Pendergraph/Howard and Miller/Blake/Webster/Pendergraph/Aldridge and still easily made the playoffs in the end in a tough western conference. We're more than 1 injury away from lineups that bad this year so your original premise is, of course, an over exaggeration of what's actually happening.
     
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    I disagree Mixum. This is the deepest team the Blazers have had in the Brandon Roy Era.

    Matthews was the starting 2 guard on a team that went to the second round of the playoffs in the Western Conference last season. Now, he's coming off our bench. Oberto started at center on a championship team 3 years ago. In a month, as players get healthy, we will have the deepest, toughest, strongest, most talented and versatile frontline in the league in Oberto, Camby, Oden, Pryzbilla, Aldridge, Batum, Cunningham, and young Babbitt (who shot 50/40/90 in college last season!). Roy and Matthews join an improved Rudy, a tested and reliable Andre Miller, two incredible athletically gifted rookie guards in Johnson and Williams (that guy can fly!), and quick hot shooting second year guard Patty Mills to round out the bunch.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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  14. julius

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    Not Canzano himself. That way he can write a 100% contradiction and deny that he ever agreed with what he wrote.
     
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    We all want depth. We love potential and the ability to access whatever raw talent we may possess. But in the end, no one wants to be one of a thousand choices. With too much talent, we become burdened. Instead of reliability and consistency, we're left focusing on accessibility and inefficiency.

    The problem with most young teams is that there's too much talent. With an abundant amount of talent, the individual player has to worry about warming up/shooting cold, FG%, distribution of shots, etc. They're NOT focused on putting the basketball into the hoop. They're focused on scoring the basketball into the hoop so that they may get more playing time.

    Basketball is a game of love. The basketball is a possession. She's the beauty. Like John Nash (the mathematician, not the GM lol) says, if everyone goes for the blonde, it'll cause much more distress because only one person will get to take her home. Therefore, it'd make sense if everyone aimed for the more common brunette as it would satisfy the overall group. Likewise, we have too many bachelor's and not enough people willing to settle down and be content over what they have. We need more veterans and people who bring intangibles rather than statistics.
     
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    this could be a rough rough season starting in about 2 days.....

    bad feeling
     
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    Wow, just wow. Matthews is equal to about 4.5 X J-Bay. You are such a soccer mom.
     
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    Well I guess that all depends on how you look at it. Maybe one day our front line depth will show back up. Mathews is better than Webster and Outlaw both were. Is it better to have 2 shitty players or one good one? Over the last few years a lot of folks have said the Blazers have depth. They were saying this because the difference between the front line talent at many positions wasn't much different between a starter and a #12 guy on the bench. The problem was, the guy who was starting or getting minutes, really wasn't that good. The only guys who were good, were Brandon, Aldridge, and a couple of centers.
     
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    You mean they are not just going to hand us the trophy on opening night? Fire somebody! (and then complain about it).
     
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    sorry but ur missing your point.

    webster has a bad back

    bayless has short hands and a well known "expert" on this very site said he is useless (i believe it was u).
     

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