I recently placed 3 people who seem to do nothing but agitate on "ignore". Amazing how peaceful this place has become since then.
lol I didnt vote dont worry. But FWIW I think that %'s of voters ganging together in an angry mob to get someone banned is a slippery slope. A whole lot of politics could/would happen. Then you start having these really annoying cliques that form. Dont make me choose between the Capulets and the Montagues please!!!
I demand that a mod add a pitchfork and a torch to the "mook" emoticon or there will be some serious-ass rabble-rabble going on here.
The problem with the "I don't care about trolls" statement is that it isn't that simple. I have NO problem ignoring a certain Troll's posts. The problem is that if EVERYBODY doesn't do the same, the entire discussion gets completely derailed and now I have to skip the entire thread and discussion instead of a single poster's posts. It is a lot easier to try to fix the actions of a single poster than try to change the actions of everybody else. And if everybody else doesn't ignore the troll, then he has succeeded at screwing up the experience for those who really were ignoring him.
I edited the poll to reflect mook's change of mind. I really don't want to keep changing votes though.
This I think is the biggest problem. The rules state something about posting with honorable intent, which obviously could be up to interpretation. If the intent is to be inflammatory, is that honorable? If the intent is to be as negative as possible, and change your opinions when needed to fit that m.o., is that really honorable? I don't see how it is. But some mods say that's just discussion. I understand everyone is not going to have the same opinion. I question, if I posted the exact same thing as some in here, but on, say, the Lakers board, pretending to be a Lakers fan, how long I would truly last. The entire board, when infected, is either posts by a poster, about that poster, or posts within other topics they might post in that get derailed attacking, then the entire discussion deteriorates. it really brings down the quality of the board, IMO. Whatever. I don't think a vote to ban is a good idea. I think maybe hitting the reset button on the mods, and going with some that try to let honest discourse go, and blatant trolling not would be nice. Whatever. I'll just likely begin to visit less and less during the season until it ruins the experience of posting here, and then I'll focus my posts elsewhere.
This post suggests to me a possible solution. How about if the guy who starts a thread is considered the "owner" of that thread. If he (or she) sees some posts that are derailing the thread, PM a moderator and the moderator can go clean up the thread. Good?
I suppose. I don't see how that will really help. I mean, shouldn't a mod kind of be doing that anyways? And what if it is a mod derailing it? Also, if they don't feel like someone is trolling, then how will they find that said trolling is possibly derailing a thread? It's a vague interpretation they don't seem willing to make, and I don't see that solution helping any.
I thought I was pretty careful in writing this poll, but in retrospect I probably should've limited it to suspension and not outright ban. Anyway, I think this is an interesting barometer of the board's overall mood about the subject of dealing with trolls.
I don't understand the option "yes, but forum consensus doesn't matter", as an answer to the question "Is banning ok based on forum consensus?" barfo
Good point. I think there are several posters who clearly have no honorable intent. They just post crap. But I'm also a free speech type, so again I'd say just place those posters on 'ignore' and let them have their fun.