Chicago Trib: Blazers a "lot less formidable" without Bayless and Webster

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    And you really think that's a major distinction? Please tell me how.
     
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    ahahaha.... Guess their trying to pump themselves up, gonna need it tonight!


    Our roster probably does "look" less formidable, but we all know the truth. Best unit since 1999.
     
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    The quote is actually "even though their roster looks a lot less formidable ". "Even though" and "looks" suggests they are about to contradict themselves. Your quote suggests they are actually a worse team without the two marginal players. Its a complete and intentional misquote. Its also a weak way to get some attention.
     
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    Webster was a #6 overall pick, perceived as a dangerous deep threat. Bayless was a viewed as a top-5 talent who could attack the rim relentlessly and get to the line at will. People (who didn't know any better) would see those players on our roster and view them as dangerous players giving us great depth--firepower off the bench. They have been replaced by an unheralded 2nd-round rookie and an undrafted 2nd-year player. On paper, the roster looks weaker, especially to those unfamiliar with the deficits in Bayless and Webster's games. In reality, their replacements are better fits, and the team is actually better.

    So yes, to me that's a major distinction. The Yankees' roster looks better than the Rangers', but it isn't. The 49ers' roster looks better than the Seahawks', but it isn't. The Blazers' roster looks weaker this year than last year's, but it isn't.
     
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    Nonsense.

    Our pre-blowup team would manhandle this squad, unless you are counting Oden which is pretty delusional at this point.
     
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    I agree with this post.
     
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    The Niners roster IS better..... except for quarterback. The coaching and ownership sucks balls.
     
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    Roster and team are pretty much synonymous here ... in fact not "pretty much,' but "exactly much"
     
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    Shooter states in the opening line of his post that he thinks the out of town writers are funny for writing this, which suggests he finds it amusting that a Chicago sports writer saw Webster and Bayless as pivotal figures to the team's success and indeed the writer does imply that.
     
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    Huh? It's very clear that the Chicago writer is suggesting the Blazers have been weakened by the subtraction of Webster and Bayless. Period. That's the point. I happen to think the writer is full of crap, which I thought was clear from my post.
     
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    Exactly. What the hell? Is that not my original point??
     
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    I'll check into it. In the meantime, what other quote in my sig line was mis-attributed?
     
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    No. He's NOT saying that they are weaker.

    He is saying that they APPEAR weaker to someone who might not be paying attention.

    He then says, "Don't sleep on them," which means, "Don't be fooled."

    Commenting on the perception of the strength of the team is different than commenting on the strength of the team.

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    More odd is the first paragraph of the article/column/post:

    "Chicago Bulls took the floor against Detroit Pistons yesterday for their home-opener at the United Center, and were expected to bounce back from what should have been a gimme in Oklahoma City three nights before."

    Is he saying that the Bulls should have won in OKC? And that it should have been a "gimme", no less?

    Wow.

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    Yeah, that's pretty strange.
     
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    I don't think so. He's saying that even though they are weaker, they are still formidable. I think he actually thinks the subtraction of Webster and Bayless is significant--if he didn't, I doubt he would even mention it.
     
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