<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jun 7 2006, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That belongs to you, lets see your arguements1. Howard does a good job on Wade in regular season- Wade averaged 20 points, the game he went 7-19 Shaq wasn't playing, when Shaq did play he went 6-13.2. Dampier gives Shaq trouble- 23 and 8 in the regular season.3. They beat them 2-0 in regular season, Detroit had the best record in the east and there not in the finals now. What about San Antonio, best record also I believe?4. No one can guard Dirk- No one can guard Shaq or Wade either.</div>Who on Miami can guard Howard? Who is capable of being a 20+ scoring threat. and the mavs are 23-0 when he scores 20+.
Okay, well I voted Dallas in 7, Although I'd love to see my Miami win but I just dont think its gonna happen! So yeah, thats what I think!
This is gonna be a good series for sure! I hope tat Miami win since thats my team but I have a feeling Dallas might get up in 7! Although it'll have alot to do with Dirk in my opinion! Either way I'm sue it'll be a good series and it could go either way, C'mon the Heat!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballorama @ Jun 7 2006, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who on Miami can guard Howard? Who is capable of being a 20+ scoring threat. and the mavs are 23-0 when he scores 20+.</div>I don't know what to do with Howard, Pat Riley will have something up his sleeve. Maybe instead of trying to contain him he will try to get Antoine more points. Right now Howard is the second best threat right behind Dirk of course.Another thing I will like to add, even if Miami wins game 1 we won't get any credit. They will say that Dallas lost game 1 to Spurs and Phoenix. If we lose game 1 though, all hell is breaking lose against Miami.
[quote name='Heatfan32' post='86289' date='Jun 7 2006, 08:37 PM']It doesn't speak anything at all. If you notice, Dallas is 2-2 against BOTH San Antonio and Phoenix. Did that slow them down at all in the playoffs? You can say the same thing for the Heat.[/quote]Get your facts STRAIGHT, don't be like Cheney's daughter.[quote name='Heatfan32' post='86319' date='Jun 7 2006, 08:54 PM']I don't see why regular season victories are being taken into account so much here, just look at Detroit, best record in the east and lost in the eastern conference finals. You don't play the same in the post season as you do in the playoffs for better or worse. So your saying Wade is 1-4 against Dallas, he still averaged 20 points against them this season so I didn't see the "problems" Howard gave him.In the game Shaq did play against Dallas this season, 23 points 8 boards. Yeah Dampier really did a great job on him that game.[/quote]You're an idiot. The Heat lost like crap.[quote name='ballorama' post='86484' date='Jun 7 2006, 11:05 PM']Who on Miami can guard Howard? Who is capable of being a 20+ scoring threat. and the mavs are 23-0 when he scores 20+.[/quote]25-0, actually :worthy: [quote name='Heatfan32' post='86558' date='Jun 8 2006, 12:45 AM']I don't know what to do with Howard, Pat Riley will have something up his sleeve. Maybe instead of trying to contain him he will try to get Antoine more points. Right now Howard is the second best threat right behind Dirk of course.Another thing I will like to add, even if Miami wins game 1 we won't get any credit. They will say that Dallas lost game 1 to Spurs and Phoenix. If we lose game 1 though, all hell is breaking lose against Miami.[/quote]Yeah, because San Antonio and Phoenix were much tougher than Miami is... well at least the Spurs, for sure...look, man, Wade will get KILLED by Howard, and I can guarentee it, even if Miami SOMEHOW wins...Dirk will also have no match-up problems. He does well against Miami.
Don't listen to Waqas, every team has a fan like him. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>1. Howard does a good job on Wade in regular season- Wade averaged 20 points, the game he went 7-19 Shaq wasn't playing, when Shaq did play he went 6-13.2. Dampier gives Shaq trouble- 23 and 8 in the regular season.3. They beat them 2-0 in regular season, Detroit had the best record in the east and there not in the finals now. What about San Antonio, best record also I believe?4. No one can guard Dirk- No one can guard Shaq or Wade either.</div> I though you didn't like people bringing up the regular season? But since you did, I'll take those numbers from Wade/Shaq, because their not dominating numbers. Their average. I don't get number 3, are you saying Spurs and Pistons beat Heat 2-0? Because you can't really count Spurs, you never played them in playoffs. And Pistons weren't the same in the playoffs, same goes for Heat. I'm just pointing out we were the better team in the regular season, and unlike the Pistons, we got better in the playoffs. Just like the Heat as well, so it's going to be a good matchup.
Well you say Shaq's numbers aren't dominating? I did a short investigation on this and got these results Feb 1 2004-25 points and 13 reboundsNov 11 2004-22 points and 10 reboundsFeb 9 2005-23 points and 8 reboundsHe didn't play in the other game of this season but judging by these stats I have yet to see Dampier do anything to Shaq.The Spurs and Pistons statement was to say that the regular season doesn't matter, look at where the two #1 seeds are now.I don't like using the regular season stats but if your going to use it against me I might as well use it right back.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jun 8 2006, 11:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well you say Shaq's numbers aren't dominating? I did a short investigation on this and got these results Feb 1 2004-25 points and 13 reboundsNov 11 2004-22 points and 10 reboundsFeb 9 2005-23 points and 8 reboundsHe didn't play in the other game of this season but judging by these stats I have yet to see Dampier do anything to Shaq.The Spurs and Pistons statement was to say that the regular season doesn't matter, look at where the two #1 seeds are now.</div>Well those are good numbers, BUT lets look a little further. Feb 1 2004-Dallas Win 109-104- Dampiers numbers-15 points 14 ReboundsNov 11 2004-Dallas Win 113-93- Dampiers numbers- 6points 5 ReboundsNov 25 2005-Dallas Win 103-93- Dampiers numbers- 17pionts 6 reboundsFeb 9 2005-Dallas Win 112-76- Dampiers numbers 7 points 11 rebounds(off the bench)What do you know ALL the games were Dallas voctories, and Dampier played pretty well in all 4 as well. Maybe not Shaq numbers, but well above his season average.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I don't like using the regular season stats but if your going to use it against me I might as well use it right back.</div> I haven't used any stats, I did state the 2-0 against Heat, but I also said it's different now since both teams are playing at a different level. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Well you say Shaq's numbers aren't dominating? I did a short investigation on this and got these results Feb 1 2004-25 points and 13 reboundsNov 11 2004-22 points and 10 reboundsFeb 9 2005-23 points and 8 rebounds</div> I can live with those numbers, I said earlier their going to get their points but their going to work for them. You can't use stats for that. Damp/Diop is not going to let Shaq get those 20 and 10 easy.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jun 8 2006, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I haven't used any stats, I did state the 2-0 against Heat, but I also said it's different now since both teams are playing at a different level. I can live with those numbers, I said earlier their going to get their points but their going to work for them. You can't use stats for that. Damp/Diop is not going to let Shaq get those 20 and 10 easy.</div>Game 1 is today so I guess we'll have a chance to see how Shaq does. Both teams are playing at a different level and thats what I've been trying to state in my last 20 posts
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Both teams are playing at a different level and thats what I've been trying to state in my last 20 posts </div> Officially 7 hours away from game time.
I've already posted on the finals but, Dallas has an answer for every Heat player on defense, unlike Miami. I think players like Walker may come up big, but I dont see the Heat getting past game 5.
To win this series Miami is going to have to win by OFFENSE since their defense pretty much has no chance in slowing down the mavericks. Shaq and Wade will have to play like they did against Detroit to have a chance. Jason Williams is the X Factor in this series. If he gets on a row Miami will be very hard to stop.
The more I think about it the more pathetic this match-up seems. The East really needs to get better. They should take Tim Thomas, Kevin Garnett and some other guys away so the Finals are actually fair. There are 3 teams, maybe 4 that could beat the East champion. That's not right.
I agree. Miami is not good enough to be a finals team. The east is so pathetic that Miami got their by default. San Antonio, Phoenix, and maybe even the Clippers could beat Miami in the west.
And you know what. Next year Shaq will be even older and he will keep declining and the rest of the team is pretty old, some of the players. The Pistons have a good chance at losing Ben Wallace and then they'll be stuck with an old team and 5 good players. Unless they do something the best teams in the East could be Chicago and Cleveland next year....bwahahhahahah!
