Chicago Trib: Blazers a "lot less formidable" without Bayless and Webster

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  1. Minstrel

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    You had an "Abraham Lincoln quote" at one time that was a fake:

    You took it down when people pointed out it was fake.
     
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    Whatever, dude. The point is that you're still speculating on what you think he meant, and rather than post the actual quote in your thread title, you posted a title based on your interpretation.

    For the second time in a week.
     
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    No, I posted exactly what the guy said. A "roster" and a "team" are the same thing. I realize this gets in the way of your little diatribe against me, but tough luck.
     
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    Another misquoted, or just flat out wrong post by Shooter.

    Nothing new.
     
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    Actually, he would if my interpretation is correct: that perception is that the team is weaker. The loss of those two players impacts perception.

    Your interpretation does not makes his use of "looks" rather than "is" sloppy at best.

    Which doesn't mean that he's not a sloppy writer, but it's smarter IMO to go by the plain language of what someone writes.

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    And another totally worthless post by you. Thanks!
     
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    Oh, wait, that wasn't the right quote.

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    Way to miss the point (not that I'm surprised). The differentiation is not between "roster" & "team"; rather it is between "looks" & "is" (as Ed has also pointed out). One is exact quote; the other is interpretation. If you can't figure out the difference, then there's nothing more to say.
     
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    You left off the 'even though'.

    "Portland Trailblazers are taking on Bulls tomorrow night, and even though their roster looks a lot less formidable without Martell Webster and Jerryd Bayless, both who were traded, still, don't sleep on them."

    That article did have a couple of moments of what appeared to be elevated Bulls expectations, not the least of which was the 'gimme' vs. OKC. That was a little odd.

    The author didn't do a good job of explaining why the reader shouldn't sleep on the Blazers, which includes replacing the PT of Bayless and Webster with Johnson, Matthews and more minutes for Rudy. All of whom appear to more than make up for the lost guys imho. Perhaps his as well but he didn't spell it out so it leaves us to guess. Not exactly in depth analysis.

    BUT, I'm tending to agree more with Shooter on this one since his (the Chicago blooger's) full quote above shows that he's thinking that the roster is looking weaker. It's got more of a definitive tone with 'even though the roster looks' than the 'roster looks'. You guys parse words worse than some lawyers I know.

    Is it cloudy and rainy in Portland today or something? Sunny and warm here. Too nice to get in a pissing match over implied meanings from some blogger in Chicago.
     
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    I can't believe I'm typing this, but...I agree with Shooter. To me, it seems clear that "it looks" was meant as "my observation is that" rather than "it appears, despite not really being the case."

    The "Still, don't sleep on them" very much cements that interpretation (and any reading of communication is, at some level, an interpretation) for me. "Still, don't sleep on them" denotes that the previous comments were a possible reason to sleep on them.

    In the end, though, the bigger question is: who cares?
     
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    My take is it was a quick blurb and intended to let Chicago fans know they're not going to see Bayless or Webster in the game.
     
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    Clearly they saved the front-page location to a discussion of the rare opportunity to see Wes Mathews and Armon Johnson live.
     
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    So he's saying, "I think the team is worse, but they're not worse"?

    I think "Still, don't sleep on them" indicates he's saying, "They might look worse, but they're not."

    Of course, as you said, it's not very important AND... he evidently thinks the Bulls had a gimme in OKC. So... yeah.

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    Very. Windy too. I left my pop-up canopy up in front of my house (part of my halloween decorations), and it got blown over and collapsed.

    I had nothing better to do.
     
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    He didn't say anything about them not being worse, IMO, just not to sleep on them. To me, his blurb was "Even though they may be worse, they're still a threat. The Bulls shouldn't look past them."
     
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    Holy crap, Ed, you're completely missing a very simple point. The guy is just saying that the team is worse, but it's still dangerous enough to take seriously. For God's sake.
     
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    I disagree. I don't think he's saying they're worse. I think he's saying that it might seem they're worse.

    I'm not alone in assessing it that way.

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    Not alone, just wrong.
     
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    You'd be ahead at halftime if you had Bayless and Webster.
     
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    Based on what? Assuming the blogger wrote what he meant, then he meant that the team LOOKED worse. Not that they WERE worse.

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