Tea Partay!

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  1. MrJayremmie

    MrJayremmie Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;zbyFeFhUTmI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbyFeFhUTmI[/video]

    Come on, America. Please, educate yourself.

    The Fox News generation?
     
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    A ton more video's like that. Stuff even from Beck's rally.

    LOL @ 10:25 and on. After talking about how fair Beck and Hannity are, and how factual they are, going on to call CNN evil and communist. LOL!

    The "Fox News Generation" fits well.

    Sadly, I agree with plenty philosophies of the real republican party. But I'd be embarrassed to call myself a Republican or Tea Partier. I'm embarrassed to call myself a Ron Paul supporter now and I love me some Ron Paul!
     
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  3. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Poor, poor Mr. Jay. It's sad when you take a video of morons and believe it's a portrayal of a group as a whole. Here's a newsflash for you: Every party/movement has whackjobs and idiots associated with it.

    Here's another piece of information you may find helpful: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us/politics/15poll.html

    Next time, try looking at data before you come to a conclusion about a group of people. Kthx.
     
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    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That's true of course; however I haven't ever seen quite such a collection of morons as that from any other group. But then I haven't watched every video on Youtube either, so I can't say for sure that they don't exist. For the narrator to have found such a large number of morons at one gathering does suggest that the density, pun intended, of morons was very high at that particular rally.

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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    fixed
     
  8. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    fta:

    Those quotes come across to me as a mix of ignorance, anger and racism.
     
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    Mostly agree, although the data does also suggest racism.

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    That last quote is what really bothers me more than anything else about the Tea Party movement. It's the intellectual dishonesty of those who really know better who say they want to "cut big government," but don't acknowledge that it really means "cutting Medicare and Social Security and defense."

    I can respect the libertarians who truly believe in cutting all facets of government including those entitlements. And in some ways, I agree. I think we should push back SS retirement age, for example.

    But it's just crass pandering by Tea Party leaders when they don't force their supporters to confront the true implications of what they are arguing for. "Cutting waste" and "freedom" isn't policy. Eliminating Social Security or reducing Medicare expenditures or our armed forces is. But you rarely hear them talk about that, because once they do they lose half of their support.
     
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    What's your point? That you believe it to be the mainstream of the Tea Party movement?
     
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    I just watched the video - and I am outraged that Obama is going to make fishing illegal. Fishing is crucial. Fish poop in our rivers, making them unhealthy. If there would be no fishing in our rivers, we would drown in poop. That's unacceptable to me. (and to governor Sabas).
     
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    Just to add--I think the real long-term solution is pretty obvious. We need significant cuts in entitlement spending and we need tax increases. It's going to happen at some point.

    That's just a message Americans don't want to hear, so neither party is selling it.
     
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    For the record, the only movement that is discussing that reality as having to occur are the very people who you describe as ignorant, angry and racist.
     
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    Yeah, if I was a libertarian I'd think twice before associating myself with a bunch of ignorant angry racists. But I guess you've got to build a coalition somehow, and ignorant angry racists are an available voting block.

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    I really don't see that being discussed by them, though. I certainly haven't heard much about a serious plan for entitlement and defense reduction or tax increases. If anything, I think a typical Tea Party candidate would like to see expanded tax cuts with pretty marginal spending reductions, throwing us further into debt.
     
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    The data seems to bear out that its the folks with which you politically identify who are the ones that are ignorant, angry and racist.
     
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    I don't describe them as ignorant angry racists.

    You said it was the editorializing in that article that made them out to be ignorant angry racists. I was merely pointing out that it wasn't just editorializing (although there definitely was that element)--the author also pulled actual quotes from actual Tea Part members that were ignorant, angry and racist.
     
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    I don't see any evidence of that, but feel free to point it out.

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    And I said you were using (and/or agreeing) with the editorializing that the entire Tea Party shared those views.
     

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