Dwight Jaynes suggests players may be tuning out Nate

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  1. Mediocre Man

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    Forget who said it, and concentrate on what was said.

    A great example of them tuning him out is his constant urging to push the ball on the sidelines. He does this, yet the Blazers finish last in fast break points and pace. So if he really wants them to do it, and they don't..........
     
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    No it's not. But at the same time you have to understand that Jaynes has pretty much been anti McMillan from the start, so his view is skewed. Is he looking at it objectively as a journalist, or is he just another Blazer fan with a voice for his displeasure?
     
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    Seriously, the guy doesn't even have a media credential and half the time he says on his show he doesn't even watch the Blazers because they are on too late. I've heard him say that many times.

    People should take his speculation as nothing more than some kind of erroneous subtrefuge.
     
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    'Dre is the only main cog that hasn't been asked to adapt his game. If I see him shoot another 3-pointer this year, I just may charge the court and tackle him.
     
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    Jefferson is doing one thing well this year, and that is shooting the ball. 65% FG, 60% 3pt. Both are far above his career norm. What is troubling to me about Jefferson is that he is rebounding less and assisting less. Those shots aren't going to fall all season; at some point he'll revert back to his norm, and if he isn't rebounding or passing, that spells trouble.

    A 24 PER on 20 ppg/65% FG/60% 3pt. isn't very good in the big picture.
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Sometimes I think they do tune him out, but at the same time I'm not sure if they are. I do think the offense has been pretty poorly run, and also they don't take advantage of the players they should.

    In a way, I wish they would get rid of Nate, but I'm not sure who they have on the team who A: would be a better coach and B: would stay to coach.

    I would bet Bernie Bickerstaff wouldn't stay.

    Buck probably wouldn't be a good coach (right now, or maybe ever)
    Bob O I don't know enough about.

    Probably our best "bet" would be Terry Porter or some retread coach.
     
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    Perhaps Cho could take over like Pritchard did after Mo was fired?
     
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    Dwight Jaynes knows nothing more about anything than any other poster on this board - it's his job to stir the pot with speculation, and that's what he's doing. Saying "forget the messenger" is silly. The messenger is the source, so you should definitely take that into account. We're 5-3, having played 3 back-to-backs, 5 road games and having blown a game at home that we dominated for much of the night. I'd hardly say we're screwed. Oh, and there's the minor detail that we're still missing two 7' centers that will certainly help the cause when they return.

    Ok, back to the rampant speculation and gnashing of teeth!
     
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    Best post in the history of this dump! Well typed FAMS!
     
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    If so, who would replace Nate? It's not like there's anyone better because there are a hell of a lot worse people. I don't want this team to turn into another Bulls or Hornets where we just rebuild after a few years of above average play and then go through the lottery only to be back to where we were.

    Besides, I don't know if I trust Dwight Jaynes. The guy is losing it out there, not getting the attention he craved when he worked for the paper.
     
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    I think its strange that we have a number 2 draft pick power forward, who has elevated his game this year, and a three time NBA all star and former rookie of the year, and THEY have to change their game to suit a journeyman point guard who is on his 15th* team. (*I know this is an exaggeration)

    I dont hate Andre Miller and think he has played pretty well this year, but when he was bought in, it should have been "Andre, this is Portland, Brandon ROy is our go to star franchise player, this is how we play through him" not "Andre, were ready to change to suit you". I think Nate is a great coach, maybe not championship material but he is still learning. If they not playing for him then it needs to be sorted NOW!!!

    And is Roy doesnt take at leadt 20 shots against Detroit tomorrow night, then something is DRASTICALLY wrong.
     
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    like maybe his back. Or knees. Or mindset. Or ego.
     
  13. Natebishop3

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    I think it's too early to fire Nate, but if the team shows any signs of tuning him out, there's no reason to keep him around. Should have kept Monty.
     
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    I really thought he was the Adelman to Nate's Schuler. C'est la vie.
     
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    Yeah, I've been saying for a while that Nate was a great coach to get us out of the lottery and back into the playoffs, but he's not the guy to take us any further than that.
     
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    I have obviously never been a fan of Nate, and thought it was a bad hire from the start. That being said I didn't think he was the worst choice to deal with the knuckleheads we had at the time. At the time we had Miles, Patterson ,Randolph and Telfair. Once those guys were gone though, we needed a better X's and O's coach
     
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    Nate simply got outcoached on a level where there's no debate!!!!! He can't match wits with the elite coaches and it's glaring. I for one don't think Mr. Sonic should EVER EVER have been our coach, non the less he's in over his head and Phil and crew showed just how much. He's not stoic, he's lost people!!!

    As for Mr. 8 point Roy...... If you can't get up for the World Champions when the hell can you!!!!! Want to sleep do it vs the freakin Bobcats, not Kobe!! BTW isn't Roy under 25 years old? How tired can you be two weeks into the season! If he's hurt bench him I'm sure Mathews would bring the energy Roy is lacking...

    BTW-The Lakers made more than a statement, they are now firmly in our heads as a team that can beat us with ease!

    It's not like we didn't have ROY, LA, Miller, Camby, Mathews and Batum out there. Come on people!!! Fire the coach, half the people on this board can draw up better plays than this clown! As a coach NATE has more losses than wins, in my book that says he's not even 50%. How would any of us keep a job that way and be paid millions to do so? GEEZZZ! Hey Paul take off your sonic Tshirt and act like a businessman.... this isn't working...

    Quick recap, the Bulls spanked us, OKC out hussled and outcoached us to the very final play in OT where we were leading by 13 only to have Nate draw up another prayer shot for B Roy, and we all know how bad the Laker beating was... Sooooo what has changed this year from last?

    This is the year we are to be competing with the elite, do any of you think we could beat the Lakers, Jazz, Mavs or Spurs? We need to make a change now or it will be the exact same as last year. Oden coming back isn't going to be the magic pill. We still need a well run offense and a coach who can draw up plays, neither of those do we have. The last three losses should clearly prove that.

    Now I know many of you will say.... who else is out there? My thought is have an assistant coach take over because the energy on this team is stale... Hell! Make Terry Porter coach with Buck as his assistant and bring back rip city for real.

    The way I look at it, does it really matter if we beat the Pistons tonight, knowing the Jazz and Lakers have our # so easily? We wont see the Pistons, Wizards or Kings in the playoffs... The playoff teams in the west are the ones we need to make statements with...
     
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