Chad Ford's Chat Wrap: Oden tidbit

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  1. hasoos

    hasoos Well-Known Member

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    Just to also mention another point. Kahn may want to do one thing. I wouldn't be surprised if Kahn isn't Minnesota's GM by end of year, and I also wouldn't be surprised if he is, that the owner of the team wouldn't approve the deal.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    This. I don't see why the owner of Minny would continue to hand the reigns off to a guy who has made mistake after mistake.
     
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    How long was McHale the GM?
     
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  5. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    The logical part of me wants to say no GM in the league would be stupid enough to offer Oden a max deal with lots of years, but Kahn might be. Regardless I don't expect the next CBA to be as friendly to players and there's a good chance we see partially guaranteed contracts if a hard cap gets implemented. If that happens I have no problem whatsoever with Allen matching a big contract for Greg as long as some of the risk can be ameliorated.
     
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    Khan might. so might Presti. and so may Wallace. they have the money and the need for a Center (at least OKC does). Its a small risk, high reward for them generally, although it might cost them a lot. initial marketing would probably cover that and if he gets injured any worse, who knows.
     
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    Oden's agent isn't stupid; he got his son a ridiculous deal. Everyone that has seen GO knows that if he's healthy, he's a game-changer. The reason we didn't really try to negotiate an extension with GO and his camp was cool with it is that we were too far off in what we'd pay and what they would accept.

    Conley has done a survey of the league and knows there are teams that will overpay and make a bet on GO's upside. If we don't pay him, someone else will.
     
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    Link? Last I heard, the Vulcans were charged with the task of making the team profitable. What would be the point of going far into Tax Land with a team that may not even be a contender?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    You're living in a dream world. OKC is maybe one of the most cap conscious teams in the league and they have to be in a small market with an ownership group that doesn't want to push deep into the luxury tax. Same goes for the Wolves and same goes for Memphis.
     
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    OKC will have the money under the cap to offer Oden a large contract, and still have money left over. I guess I don't understand how OKC being "cap conscious" impacts the money available for Oden.
     
  11. andalusian

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    Come-on, this is silly. Oden's contract should be considered on what the team evaluate him, not what Khan is willing to give him. If the team thinks he is a $60m player and Kahn gives him the max, you bite the bullet and go for it. If they still think he is not likely to produce and Kahn gives him $20m - you do not give it to him.

    I hope this FO does not manage the roster by doing WWKND (with the N standing for Not).
     
  12. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Because they need to save money for other players like Westbrook.
     
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    Re: Re: Chad Ford's Chat Wrap: Oden tidbit

    Which is why the grizz maxed out gay and gave conley 9 million a year. Heaven forbid they offer a once in a generation center that Wallace always wanted max money too.
     
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    Re: Re: Chad Ford's Chat Wrap: Oden tidbit

    Bird rights and it opens up a window. Unless Cole aldrich is the truth?????
     
  15. MrSelfDestruct

    MrSelfDestruct Louie, Louie, Louie

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    So they are going to let Marc Gasol walk?
     
  16. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    What do bird rights have to do with Westbrook probably being a max worthy player? If OKC makes that kind of commitment to him, their bottom line is going to be squeezed regardless of whether or not they have the cap room under the rules to give a free agent a big contract; they won't necessarily have the cash. Another thing to consider: I think they see Ibaka as being part of their solution to defense in the front court, maybe not at center, but my guess is that they'd probably rather add a serviceable glass cleaner and post defender at the five, with a clean bill of health for much less money than try to hinge their aspirations of a title to Greg's balky knees. Think back to how they scotched the Chandler trade after he failed a physical.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Hell no.
     
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    Hell no. They are going to trade him for peanuts to LAL as soon as Pau starts to decline and there is a danger LAL will not be a contender!
     
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    I don't think so either...rhetorical and such. It seems unlikely for Wallace to target Oden when he has Gasol.
     
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    They'll have the space for Westbrook as well. It's Harden and Green who will likely not be matched if their contract is too big.

    A core of Westbrook, Durant, and a healthy Oden is fucking scary, IMO. Find some vets to fill in SG (Thabo would be fine) and PF (or sign Green for the MLE if he doesn't get any ridiculous offers).

    Westbrook
    Thabo
    Durant
    Green
    Oden

    Ibaka off the bench
     

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