Bad news Democrats - 2012 could be worse than 2010

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20101109/D9JCSAI80.html

    WASHINGTON (AP) - Last week's election was bad for Democrats. The next one could be worse. Senate Democrats running in 2012 will be trying to hold their jobs in states where Republicans just scored major congressional and gubernatorial victories - Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, New Mexico and Virginia.

    The Democrats' problems don't end with senators.

    President Barack Obama carried those states in 2008, and he will need most of them to win re-election in two years. But this time they all will have Republican governors. These GOP governors can try to inhibit the president's policies and campaign operations. They also can help steer next year's once-a-decade House redistricting process in the GOP's favor.

    Moreover, Democrats must defend Senate seats in hotly contested Missouri, and in four states that Obama has little chance of winning, assuming he even tries: North Dakota, Nebraska, West Virginia and Montana.

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    The 2012 Senate map is much kinder to Republicans, who must defend 10 seats to the Democrats' 23. Except for Republican Sen. Scott Brown, who will fight an uphill re-election battle in Massachusetts, the GOP probably will be favored to keep the Senate seats it now holds.
     
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  2. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I predict... Democrats get destroyed in 2012 and the MSNBC folks will be saying what a victory it was for Democrats because they won the senate seat in Massachusetts.

    But seriously, I think a lot can change between now and 2012. A lot depends on Obama's success. If he's a wildly popular candidate again in 2012, he'll bring out voters who'll vote down the ballot for other Democrats. A lot depends on Republicans' success. If they don't get much done and the economy is sucking still, they'll have to be the lesser of the two evils or else lose a lot of elections.

    I wrote about the benefits of Governorships and redistricting in another thread. These things will certainly help the republicans in 2012.
     
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    But you forget... I get to vote in 2012. ;)
     
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  4. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    I dunno. When I've heard Republicans talk about employment (which is all voters talk about right now) everything is about extending the Bush tax cuts for everyone. Well, we've had those tax cuts for the past 10 years, so it's hard for the electorate to get excited about a "new" jobs program that is the exact same thing we've always had.

    I fully appreciate why Democrats lost this round. Jobs jobs jobs. Plus all the kids who voted for Obama didn't show up (as usual) for midterms. But if Republicans continue to have little new to offer and squander their opportunity with going after Obamacare, well, I don't see how they pull off another sweeping election year.

    I also think that after this election it's going to be incredibly likely Republicans put forth a real Barry Goldwater-like presidential candidate as a sop to the Tea Party. Which will be a really tough thing to try to sell in a general election.
     
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    I disagree. I think we will see 2 years of gridlock with a republican controlled house and in the end, people will be pissed at both parties equally. I am just so sick of the political parties putting their interest in front of the peoples. Fuck em all.
     
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    Just make sure the republicans stop running women.

    Christine O'Donnel
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    blah blah blah
     
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    HHAHAHAHAH I GET IT :)

    *WINK*
     
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    How 2012 turns out is up to the Republicans, and more specificially, the House Republicans. If they give two years of solid, sober, judicious legislation, forwarding the idea of limited government living within its means, then I think they can take the Senate.

    If they just look to score points in a party pissing match, then it will be a pox on both their houses.
     
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    Luckily for them, there are other, far more plausible routes to taking the Senate.

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  10. Denny Crane

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    Luckily for all of us, 40 Libertarian types were elected to house and senate seats this election cycle. Imagine that!
     
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    talking about this now is so ridiculous. talk to me in october of 2012.
     
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    Talking about the Celtics in the first 47 minutes of a game is so ridiculous, talk to me when it's the last minute.
     
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    Sure. If they are playing the Bulls, and the Bulls go up 6-0 in the first minute, I'm not going to predict that the Bulls will win that game.
     
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  14. Denny Crane

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    But you might talk about how their 2nd unit is likely to do when they come in the game.
     
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    They are the 2nd unit for a reason.

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    Well, in 2010, the people called in the first team.
     
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    Judging by the teabagger morons who got elected to "republican" seats, I see a landslide back to the dems in 2012 as people find out, again, the right wing is mentally incompetent, morally sadistic, and really just a bunch of sad, stupid narcissists who like to hear themselves tell lies.
     
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    there is no first team in politics. they're all a bunch of scrubs.
     
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    Calling those dolts women could give a man the wrong idea about women.
     
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    maxiep, if you actually believe they're capable of that kind of massive policy reversal, pm me about some oceanfront property in Christmas Valley I have listed. :lol:
     
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