Re: Something people don't usually know. Black people were enslaving eachother in Africa long before Europeans got there. African tribes would kidnap other people and force them to work and when Europeans got there they had Africans go out and capture other Africans for us to take. I know slavery is wrong and blah blah blah blah blah but it's a little hypocritical to just blame Europeans and Americans.
Re: Something people don't usually know. What alot of people don't know is that race had absolutely NOTHING to do with slavery. Blacks were the most available, and probably the cheapest. Also, africans were primative, so Europeans thought of them as less than human. I don't think it was just because they were black.
Re: Something people don't usually know. Africans were slaves because they were harder workers than white people. They can endure more on the field. They were typically stronger.White slaves would die much faster than black slaves.
Re: Something people don't usually know. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Jun 6 2006, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Africans were slaves because they were harder workers than white people. They can endure more on the field. They were typically stronger.White slaves would die much faster than black slaves.</div> Your right Ballah, they sure are good at football.
Re: Something people don't usually know. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Jun 6 2006, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Africans were slaves because they were harder workers than white people. They can endure more on the field. They were typically stronger.White slaves would die much faster than black slaves.</div>Wow, what the F*ck? Because you have one skin color determines how hard you can work and for how long? Unnecessary comment. Sounds a little racist to me.
Re: Something people don't usually know. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yankshater213 @ Jun 8 2006, 01:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, what the F*ck? Because you have one skin color determines how hard you can work and for how long? Unnecessary comment. Sounds a little racist to me.</div>wow dude relax hes not being racist hes saying that because africans were bigger and stronger not because they were black skinned like BCB said just look at the NFL,also if you want to see how africans slaves were first captured by other africans watch the movie "Amistad",btw its a good movie as well.
Re: Something people don't usually know. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yankshater213 @ Jun 8 2006, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, what the F*ck? Because you have one skin color determines how hard you can work and for how long? Unnecessary comment. Sounds a little racist to me.</div>I think it's more of a cultural thing than a color thing. He's saying that the slaves brought over were used to working longer, harder hours and were used to surviving with little food. With white people, not only are they not used to working in those environments, but it would probably also be looked down upon by the community. The same thing is happening with illegal Mexican immigrants today. They can pay them less because those people are used to needing less... even though the companies are paying them less than minimum wage, it's still more than they made at home. It is indeed racist and unfair, but it is a reality.
Re: Something people don't usually know. No. That happens with illegal immigrants because theyll do anything in this country to gain a living, even if that means doing hard work for less money. It has nothing to do what what theyre used to or need, its what they can get.
Re: Something people don't usually know. That's what Justice said... but he elaborated it by explaining why that happens. It happens because even though they are being paid less than minimum wage in the US as illegal immigrants, that is still more than they would make back home, thus the reason why they come to the US. That is what allows companies to continue to pay them such low wages, and is huge leverage for these companies.
Re: Something people don't usually know. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jun 6 2006, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What alot of people don't know is that race had absolutely NOTHING to do with slavery. Blacks were the most available, and probably the cheapest. Also, africans were primative, so Europeans thought of them as less than human. I don't think it was just because they were black.</div>If it had nothing to do with race how come no indians or mexicans were on the field picking cotton? And of course it had nothing to do with being black..... If you knew your history, you would find it actually goes back to the bible, where black is considered ''evil'', and it was around that time where the catholic church began ''converting''(genociding) and of course the word nigga and them raping our women in front of their children,lynching our free men, and denying us rights to vote had nothing to do with being black?That's one of the honkeyist statements i've ever read.
Re: Something people don't usually know. Africans were not the primitive ones, the only reason that the europeans were able to do so much damage to the continent was that they introduced guns. Btw black on black slavery still goes on today.
Re: Something people don't usually know. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yankshater213 @ Jun 8 2006, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No. That happens with illegal immigrants because theyll do anything in this country to gain a living, even if that means doing hard work for less money. It has nothing to do what what theyre used to or need, its what they can get.</div>You don't seem to understand economics very well. Your post doesn't refute what I said at all, really. Of course they want to get whatever they can, but if they were used to working less and/or getting more salary, they wouldn't work at Walmart or whatever other place that pays <$5 and hour. When all those tech people got laid off in 2001/2002, why do you think they were unemployed? There weren't jobs available? No, it's that they couldn't make nearly as much as what they were making before... aside from that, it won't support their families. They're used to making more money and therefore need a higher income. Mexican families don't need that much money, so they work for whatever they can get.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 8 2006, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If you knew your history, you would find it actually goes back to the bible, where black is considered ''evil''</div>What verse in the Bible says black people are "evil"?
Re: Something people don't usually know. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jun 9 2006, 12:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What verse in the Bible says black people are "evil"?</div>It does not say that exactly, but it is implied, just like ''follow us or you will burn in hell'' is applied, which was the foundation of the roman catholic ''conversion'' of other cultures I.E. Indians,Aztects,Africans,etc.Many of the white people when they 1st saw colored men called them the devils people. Read up on your history.
Re: Something people don't usually know. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 9 2006, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It does not say that exactly, but it is implied, just like ''follow us or you will burn in hell'' is applied, which was the foundation of the roman catholic ''conversion'' of other cultures I.E. Indians,Aztects,Africans,etc.Many of the white people when they 1st saw colored men called them the devils people. Read up on your history.</div>Okay then, where in the Bible is it implied that black people are evil? Just because people interpret things a certain way doesn't mean it's true or accurate. Hitler told the German people that Jews were evil, sometimes using their influence on Jesus' death as an example. Does that mean the Bible implied that Jews were evil?
Re: Something people don't usually know. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jun 6 2006, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Black people were enslaving eachother in Africa long before Europeans got there. African tribes would kidnap other people and force them to work and when Europeans got there they had Africans go out and capture other Africans for us to take. I know slavery is wrong and blah blah blah blah blah but it's a little hypocritical to just blame Europeans and Americans.</div>Yeah, I knew this. My S.S. history was a civil war fanatic, and he knows all this crazy stuff about slavery, etc..
Re: Something people don't usually know. Yea i learned this from watching "Amistad". It's actualy a really good movie.
Re: Something people don't usually know. They blame Europeans and Americans because they are the more powerful nations. the other countries are just jealous b/c slavery didnt work for them. Im not saying slavery is the only factor that made nation became powerful there where others as well.
Re: Something people don't usually know. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jun 9 2006, 01:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okay then, where in the Bible is it implied that black people are evil? Just because people interpret things a certain way doesn't mean it's true or accurate. Hitler told the German people that Jews were evil, sometimes using their influence on Jesus' death as an example. Does that mean the Bible implied that Jews were evil?</div>Im not here to debate what the bible stands for, the fact is the foundation of racism was built on the bible, whether it be wrongly interpreted or not, thats fact.
Re: Something people don't usually know. I only asked because you didn't say that the first time. First you said the Bible says black people are evil, then you said it implies that they are evil. If you don't want to debate something, then don't make false/unbacked claims.Also, the foundation of racism was not built on the Bible. Racism existed long before the Bible. So no, it's not fact.
Re: Something people don't usually know. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jun 10 2006, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Also, the foundation of racism was not built on the Bible. Racism existed long before the Bible. So no, it's not fact.</div>Racism did not exist before the bible. Slavery did exist though. I believe the other continents werent even explored until the Roman conquests of the world.
