How low will California fall?

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    You think paying union wages to berry pickers would mean the prices for berries would be roughly the same?
     
  2. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    The market will determine the price consumers are willing to pay for berries. If they want to jack up the prices, they'll all rot and go unsold.

    Besides, there is a migrant workforce that is willing to work and go back to mexico. No need to give them spots in colleges, universities and jobs that could go to citizens of the United States.
     
  3. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Your complaint seems to be the migrant workers don't go back like you now claim.
     
  4. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    no. Migrant workers are fine. Its when they come here illegally and start getting in-state tuition benefits, taking scholarships and the places of US Citizens in public institutions, not to mention hospitals and other facilities when they shouldn't even be here.
     
  5. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    My god, you finally acknowledge one of my arguments. Of course you got it wrong, it was "neener neener". But it's a start.

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  6. Denny Crane

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    I still question your reading comprehension. There are THREE "neeners" in "neener, neener, neener" just as there are to "ha's" in "ha ha."
     
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  8. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    I was HUGELY against this the first time around. However, never underestimate the stupidity of California
    http://www.latimes.com/health/la-me-stem-cell-20101122,0,586087.story

     
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    get ready for your 30-80% increase in gas prices!

    http://www.calwatchdog.com/2010/11/21/carb-set-to-boost-ca-gas-prices/

     
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  11. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Unbelievable, Kamala Harris, the NUTBAG DA from San Francisco who fosters the cities sanctuary city status, will not pursue the DEATH Penalty (even when cops are killed) and was not endorsed by one police agency in the entire state is the new District Attorney of California.

    So. Fucked.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    all this global warming final solutions bullshit is going to do is force companies to move out of state due to expensive costs to run a biz.
     
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    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-dwp-rates-20101207,0,3531908.story

    great, LA DWP customers (such as me) get an 8% increase in rates PER YEAR. Thanks green energy!
     
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    Gallon of regular in California right now is around $3.40. In a year that will seem cheap.

    Also...Carnival Cruise lines and others leaving. Some say Mexico and the drug violence, I say its the cost of porting in California and its increasingly bad business climate. They'll have to carbon trade. Watch the state, more companies will leave.


    http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/wireStory?id=12613050
     
  16. EL PRESIDENTE

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    You realize that the price per mile for energy consumption of an electric vehicle is about 8% of the price per mile of a gasoline vehicle? Even if they double the cost of electricity for car usage - it would still be much cheaper than gasoline...

    Fossil fuels as the dominant source of transportation energy is very backward thinking. It is clear that it will take some time to transform the infrastructure - but investing in it is a very smart idea.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Yeah smart as long as its government subsidized.

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    If Quakes Weren’t Enough, Enter the ‘Superstorm’

    SACRAMENTO — California faces the risk not just of devastating earthquakes but also of a catastrophic storm that could tear at the coasts, inundate the Central Valley and cause four to five times as much economic damage as a large quake, scientists and emergency planners warn.

    The potential for such a storm was described at a conference of federal and California officials that ended Friday. Combining advanced flood mapping and atmospheric projections with data on California’s geologic flood history, over 100 scientists calculated the probable consequences of a “superstorm” carrying tropical moisture from the South Pacific and dropping up to 10 feet of rain across the state.

    “Floods are as much a part of our lives in California as earthquakes are,” said Lucy Jones, the chief scientist for the United States Geological Survey’s multi-hazards initiative, adding, “We are probably not going to be able to handle the biggest ones.”

    The geological survey estimates that such a storm could cause up to $300 billion in damage. The scientists’ models estimate that almost one-fourth of the houses in California could experience some flood damage from one.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/science/earth/16flood.html?_r=1&hp
     
  20. Denny Crane

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    I read somewhere along the line that the Chevy Volt takes $1.47 worth of electricity a night to charge. While it does get you 25 miles or less. It's really the equivalent of ~$3/gallon gas in a car that gets 50MPG (or 40MPG if the Volt gets 20 miles/charge)

    More realistically, the Volt will be using its gas engine, and it gets 37 MPG (combined city/highway).
     

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