Semi-OT: JVG predicts Heat will break Bulls' 72 Win record

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  1. huevonkiller

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    Well there's a couple of problems. First would be not everyone is 25-26 on this team, or has shown amazing durability in their career. Another point would be a lot of teams win titles with somewhat injured stars. Instead of going into the playoffs a little beaten up, I don't see the issue with being at your best before the post-season.

    I don't like resting players completely, I'd still let them play somewhat. If they're super close to the record might as well let them go get it though.
     
  2. Denny Crane

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    The heat should be racking up big leads and resting their guys all along, only playing them at end of games if the result is in question. They'll get plenty of rest.
     
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    The Bulls went for 72 wins because the guys that played for the Bulls, especially MJ, were guys with a burning desire to win whenever they stepped on the court.

    The Heat tanking and taking days off would be in character for them. That being said, it'd also be in character for them to try to do it because they want to be historically great. I think they've got the talent and a good blend of role players to do it. But I also think Lebron and Bosh are clowns.
     
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    I think it's possible
     
  5. Master Shake

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    I BELIEVE!

    Wait a minute....
     
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    Sure they can. Lose just 3 games the rest of the year! I am being sarcastic
     
  7. JayJohnstone

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    I really underestimated how much Lebron plays like a guard, lacks a post-up game and is redundant with Wade.

    p.s. So much for Lebron's historic PER, eh, huvonkiller?
     
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    I was on the bandwagon that the Heat were going to be ass-kickingly good and that 70 wins was within their reach, moreso in future seasons than this one.

    I still think their 5 year window is better than anyone else's in the league, and it would not take much to get from where they are now to going off on a 12 game win streak and putting themselves a top the league's elite. It will be interesting if they end up a 6,7, or 8 seed in the playoffs.

    That said, I had no idea they would play like this. I haven't watched them too much, so I can't say with any confidence whether their problems are primarily due to roster makeup or attitude problems.

    Has any team quit on their coach after only 15 games? It's apparent that Spoelstra has to go, but I think Pat Riley is in a predicament. He has to find a kick ass replacement and I'm not sure he really wants to do it himself. Partially because of his age, but probably more due to ego. If he takes over and he still can't get them back on track, the whole thing is really fucked, and all those guys are signed to long term deals.

    For that reason, I think Spo may actually last the whole season. Given the team seems to have serious attitude problems, I think changes are best made w/ brute force, which may have to wait until the off season.
     
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    It's hard to argue that they don't have the best 5-year window given the big 3 are all relatively young and signed. Even a guy like Tyson Chandler would make a big difference. Maybe Lebron or Bosh could still develop a post-up game.

    That's still a much different conversation that what was being said this summer.
     
  10. huevonkiller

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    I still want a different coach, even if this turns around.
     
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    Its surprising how no one else is talkin about the other teams who could possibly be on track to break 72. Lakers, Hornets, and the Spurs. And when I mean no one else, i mean espn or sports writers
     
  12. 44Thrilla

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    because none of those teams are going to break the record
     
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    My thoughts exactly, but at least they started on a good enough pace to be talked about doin it.
     
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    Interesting stat. Heat 1-6 against teams with winning records.
     
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    2 of those losses thanks to the C's. ;)
     
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    Until somebody clues in Chrissy Bosh to that fact that he has to be a double digit rebounder first and play great interior defense second, and worry about offensive touches last, that team isn't going anywhere. I think the other thing that kills them is that LBJ really doesn't have a good grasp of how to play with other good players at least against good teams. DWade does, but his game is the more limited of the two, and LBJ is really the one who should be initiating the offense.
     
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    Actually against Good teams DWade has been terrible this year. LeBron has been the most respectable of the 3, but he's playing way below his level.


    They just have poor chemistry, are playing poorly, and have a bad coach. Not a great combo, they're just skating by on talent alone.
     
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    Exactly, LBJ isn't making anybody better.
     
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    That is not who Bosh is. That's why they should have let him sign somewhere else and spread that money out to better role players. I think they need a guy like Reggie Evans in that spot.
     
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    Uh sorry this is BS concerning Wade, who creates for himself. Most of his shots have always been unassisted and they still are this season.

    Wade's been bricking jumpshots and when he gets into the paint he can't finish anymore, against good teams.

    It is because they're both redundant playing styles, they are canceling each other out to a degree.
     

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