Well we know Kobe quit on the Lakers, at least twice. 2004 and 2006. Ok so Kobe won the title, because he's a hard worker? Think of who actually won the championship and you will realize, you're the one making excuses. Kobe didn't do well, his teammates bailed him out.
I don't understand why you always bring Kobe in to the argument. We know you think he's shit and that LeBron is a bagillion times better than him. That's all well and good that you think that. But seriously dude, why the fuck do you always bring Kobe in to it? No one even mentioned him aside from you.
Well, Patriot's sig was very eye-catching. http://sportstwo.com/threads/175025-Jordan-owns-Lebron?p=2481706&viewfull=1#post2481706 Either way, so? Look at the commercial, it doesn't make any sense considering who actually won this year.
Then it's a bad analogy... you're comparing someone who hasn't won a single Championship in his career to a guy who has five rings. We aren't talking about Jack Haley here. We're talking about the best player on a team that's won two titles in a row.
It is not a poor analogy, because often those who didn't win a championship outperformed the Finals MVP. Just like when Larry Bird was winning Finals MVP, and Jordan had nothing until Scottie Pippen entered his prime. Well in your rush to hate on James some more, you and the creator of the commercial are ignoring what the purpose was. Listen to what he actually says, he's talking about working hard. You have no idea what point you want to make. You must not be capable of any nuanced discussion on this matter then. Kobe choked into this title, everyone ignoring that is just a hypocrite. Jordan didn't create this commercial to let Kobe get away with choking. He won two rings as the best player on his team. Shaq carried him for 3. To say he has five rings like he's the man, is just funny to me. He was terrible in the Finals and against good defenses this year. He had an o-rating of 104 in the playoffs against top 10 defenses. http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7079
Sorry, but you just come off like a little kid who's whining that his dad could beat up my dad. The Heat suck right now. LeBron is nothing like Kobe or Jordan. There's a killer instinct and a drive to be the best. I've hated Kobe for most of his career, but even I can recognize that he has those traits and LeBron does not. You do realize you're arguing with a Blazer fan about Kobe, right? This isn't a Laker forum.
Yeah so? I used to be a Laker mod, I know Kobe a lot better than you. I saw every post-season Laker game the last three seasons. The reality is you're being a little kid yourself, you believe what you want to believe but Kobe choked in the Finals and this can be proven. Everything you said is nonsense in comparison, because it is just your opinion. The Heat suck, oh but what does that have to do with last year? You must be confused. Whether or not you like LeBron it doesn't change the fact that you just avoided all the important points in my post. 1) Kobe's not clutch, sorry. At every point last year he underperformed compared to LBJ. 2) You saying he's clutch doesn't mean anything, It has zero value. That's a little kid tactic. Man up and show me these amazing clutch periods. Oh no wait you can't, because they don't exist. 3)The analogy stands, because you can not produce anything to discredit it. Again refer to what was actually said in the commercial. Hard work buddy, not letting Kobe get away with choking while you rail on a superior player. 4)Kobe had 15 PER against the Oklahoma city thunder and his team still won. He was terrible, KD was just more terrible. 5) Kobe shot 29% in the fourth quarter, that seems like the definition of anti closer, if there ever was one. 6) DWade also sucks this year, and he's better than Kobe. 7)In fact both LeBron and Wade were much much better than Kobe against elite defenses, and they both suck this year. That has probably a lot more to do with chemistry than any talent Kobe has. 8) Lol having fun? Don't worry about what I tell Patriot next time, dude.
I'm so confused huevon I always thought you were a laker fan. sorry I don't wanna get into your guys' gift but I do wanna say 1 second on the clock in the 4 th quarter I take Kobe shooting it 100,472,744 out of a hundred over lebron
I was until sorry, this silliness above. I don't like fake qualities attributed to people. Anyone man enough to actually prove their claims, I'd like to hear from them. I still respect LA/Kobe though.
Please, explain this one. I'm quite curious to hear this. Kobe has a higher efficiency rating per NBA.com (22.19 to 18.56), and is outperforming Wade in nearly every statistical category (Wade is marginally better in FG% and rebounds and significantly better in blocks), and Wade is only marginally better. Oh yea, and Kobe's playing less minutes. Yea...Wade is REALLY outplaying Kobe this year...
Should have kept reading then, if you didn't catch it. "were much much better than Kobe against elite defenses, and they both suck this year. "
You said Kobe isn't clutch. Clutch isn't determined by 15 games when a guy has played in the league since 1996. You're just trolling to get a rise out of people. Your arguments don't even make sense anymore. I can't believe you actually got me to defend Kobe.... hahaha
Yes...because playing against elite defenses is CLEARLY all that matters in the NBA now. Who cares about the other 65 games you'll end up playing in a year against poor to mediocre defensive teams...it's all about this 15-17 games you play against great defense. Right...