Shut Down Roy

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  1. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Well, at least that's what this guy appears to be intimating...

    http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.c...838893/26135302?utm_source=bleacherreport.com

     
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    Wait, did that guy say become a factor come playoff time? According to popular belief, we have already been eliminated from playoff contention and BRoy passed away a month ago (god bless his soul!).
     
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    Roy has the 2nd best PER on the team (18.1) while being hobbled with a bad knee.

    Sit Roy, and the Blazers are the Clippers without a stud rookie.
     
  4. MickZagger

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    Who has the best PER on the team? I'm too lazy to look it up right now.
     
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    Miller. 0.7 ahead of Roy.
     
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    Interesting. Gracias.
     
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    idiotic, shut him down and then bring him back IF we might make the playoffs? IF we made the playoffs without Roy (huge IF) then that means some guys would have stepped up and we're playing well as a team. Then we bring a rusty Roy back to what? disrupt what cohesion and winning style of play we may have developed - oh yea that's friggin brilliant
     
  8. MickZagger

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    Alright, I had to look for myself. Aldridge really has a PER of just 17.0? lol thats sad.

    I prefer Love's 22.4
     
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    no roy = no playoffs

    this dude is out of his fucking mind! with that said... its us, suns, grizz or gs for 8th seed. frankly i could see a team who is 40-42 get that seed. nba is really bad this year.
     
  10. MARIS61

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    Judging from the stat lines from his most recent 2 games, Roy is more than fine.
     
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    i have to think this forum hits rock bottom if the sixers win tomorrow. threads like this are signs of the ultimate meltdown.
     
  12. MickZagger

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    Isn't that what you've wanted for years anyways? You bet people every year on how shitty the team is going to be. Your always wrong.
     
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    no i wish i was wrong. i have been depressed all day we lost to the nets...

    the bills loss was tough but that was painful.... more painful then dropping a game winning td perfectly thrown ball.

    see stevie johnson who then blasted god on twitter.
     
  14. Kingspoint

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    Can a mod mix the thread with this one I started on this same subject...didn't see this thread.
     
  15. Kingspoint

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    Yes. Roy should be shut down permanently forever.

    Retire, Brandon....you're a millstone around the neck of the Blazers.
     
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    how about working on a original screen name first?
     
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    But, not Nate....not Cho...and certainly, not Brandon.....they're all blind to Roy's inability to be anything other than a spot-up shooter.


    From Ken Berger of sportsline.com :

    With Roy hurting, Blazers have decision to make

    Posted on: November 29, 2010 12:12 am

    NEWARK, N.J. – The Trail Blazers had one of those players-only meetings Sunday night, which is what playoff teams do when they’ve lost three straight games, fallen to .500, and shown a startling in ability to close out games – at home and on the road.

    The culprit? Lack of execution, according to coach Nate McMillan. Lack of rhythm, added Brandon Roy. Effort, said Wesley Matthews. All good answers. But not the answer – not the problem that looks like it’s going to haunt the Blazers for months, if not longer.

    It was the lowest point of the season, everyone in the visiting locker room agreed after Portland turned in another lackluster fourth quarter and lost to the Nets 98-96. What’s scary about the Blazers, the team with by far the worst injury luck in the NBA, is that calling it the lowest point was optimistic. It may very well not be.

    When it rains on the Trail Blazers, it pours with a ferocity rarely seen. Greg Oden is recovering from his second microfracture surgery. Joel Przybilla was supposed to play his first game in almost a year Friday night against New Orleans and got sick. Sean Marks, signed as a stopgap to play 8-10 minutes again under the basket, is shelved with an ankle injury. And yet somehow, those aren’t the biggest concerns for a team whose future was once so bright. Roy, Portland’s superstar and closer, clearly isn’t physically able to perform either of those roles – and it’s not even December yet. His left knee is something all the players-only meetings in the world won’t fix.

    “I’m fine,” Roy said “I’m playing. I don’t have any excuses.”

    Nor would you expect any from a guy who came back about a week after arthroscopic knee surgery and played – or tried to – in a playoff series against Phoenix last spring. Now Roy has played two games since sitting out three when his left knee started barking at him again. The numbers say he’s thriving – 21 points on 9-for-16 shooting from the field against the Nets after scoring 27 points on 10-for-20 shooting in a 97-78 home loss to the Hornets Friday night. The visual evidence says otherwise.

    A little less wincing and limping was evident after both were on hideous display in the New Orleans game, but the fact remains that Roy is 26 years old and has no meniscus in either knee. And it shows. Instead of closing out a winnable game, Roy settled into the role of decoy. As a result, the Blazers’ offense stagnated in the fourth quarter again. After producing only 13 points in the fourth against New Orleans, the Blazers went into the fourth with a five-point lead over the Nets and got outscored 25-18.

    Their poor excuse for execution, though, is the least of their problems. Roy, a player built to attack off the dribble and get to the rim, has been mostly relegated to the role of innocuous spot-up shooter. The explosiveness isn’t there, and neither is the confidence to finish at the basket. And so the Blazers head to Philadelphia for the first set of back-to-back games since Roy returned not knowing if he’ll be able to play the back end in Boston Wednesday night.

    “We’ll see how he goes against Philly,” McMillan said. “If he feels OK, he’ll play the back-to-back. And if not, then we’ll sit him.”

    And that is where the Blazers are – a .500 team on a three-game losing streak with their star and closer working on a 30-35 minute limit and unsure when, or if his knee will be strong enough to play back-to-backs. It’s a game-to-game predicament for Roy and the Blazers, making it exceedingly difficult for them to form an identity down the stretch of games.

    “For me, it’s frustrating,” said Roy, who had four points and two turnovers that were decisive in the fourth quarter – dribbling the ball off his foot and falling awkwardly out of bounds while trying to drive on Travis Outlaw for one of the miscues. “I’ve always been pretty good late in games. Right now, I’m trying to get my rhythm back, my timing back late in the game.”

    The Blazers are a team without rhythm or timing, and the prospects look grim for them to be a team with a healthy Roy for the long haul. It’s a young season, they kept saying (especially from Roy when you hear his excuses). But it gets older by the day as Roy’s struggles become more difficult to watch.

    With free-agent shooting guard Wesley Matthews eager for a bigger role and capable of justifying his five-year, $32 million contract, it makes you wonder if it might be best for everyone involved to shut Roy down indefinitely so he has a chance to be a factor come playoff time (except why make the team suffer in the playoffs with a still gimpy Roy as he'll always be gimpy and always fail to bring effort onto the court that results in Rebounds, Steals, Blocks, Solid Defense....all the things that one who doesn't have bone-on-bone in both knees is able to bring to the court like Batum, Rudy and Matthews). McMillan sent Matthews out with the starters at the beginning of the third quarter, in place of Nicolas Batum, and the reasons he gave were eye-opening. Accurate, but eye-opening.

    McMillan said he was looking for some “scrappiness” and “fire,” and turned to Matthews to supply it. These are things that Roy used to bring on a nightly basis (except he never would let his team run because it would hurt his knees costing them easy baskets every night and giving the opponents easy fast-breaks every night), but now, he can’t do anything except spot up and shoot. And, McMillan took Batum out for lack of "energy" and "scrappiness"? Get a clue, Nate.

    The only problem with my solution is that there’s a good chance it might not help. Privately, Blazers officials are optimistic that the training staff, Roy and McMillan will be able to find a way to manage his injury and keep him effective enough – often enough – to carry them where they need to go. But that isn’t working so far, and it’s worth wondering if the alternative would work better. Let your superstar get better – or at least try – and figure out how to close games with Matthews doing what Roy used to do.

    “We’re at a tough point right now, but it’s a young season,” Roy said. “We’ve lost three games in a row and we’re .500, so yeah, it’s a difficult time. We’ve got to stick together and find out what we’re made of.”
     
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    Sad but true. Roy seems to have lost his explosiveness, and that's one of the key parts of his game.
     
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    Says the guy who won't stop complaining.
     
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    Complaining? I'd consider myself a homer, except when it comes to McMillan and Aldridge.
     

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