I do think Kobe is a clutch player, overall. In the Finals he wasn't though. Well what exactly is your convoluted argument then? You're using regular season games from 2007 to prove what exactly? You're wasting my time, and you've yet to provide any coherent argument as to why Kobe was clutch in the 2010 post-season. Yes Kobe hasn't won a Finals MVP until age 31, I don't think that line of reasoning shows anything. It proves he played with a great player who averaged 36 a game in the finals, while he was just along for the ride. At each step you've failed to make any point, because I have watched plenty of Kobe games you can ask the Laker supporters in this very thread. The truth is you just have no idea how to defend your side, you just feel like spewing random nonsense about clutch people, and then decide not to back it up with anything. My real opinion of Kobe is that he's a great, top 8 player of all time or something like that. He's hardly deserved all this fanfare in the past season though, his prime is way over. He's a Magic Johnson level player, I think even slightly better. So no I'm not a hater at all I just like to give people the exact amount of credit they deserve. No more or less.
He wasn't better against mediocre/poor Defenses either.... Being able to shred top 10 defenses is a pretty useful skill though, I'd say. I already said Kobe was better than Wade this season though, in fact I think he would fit on the Heat better.
And you've been spewing nonsense through this entire thread. It's like you're arguing with yourself, because you've been putting words in my mouth the whole time. I never said he was clutch until you brought it up. I never said he was clutch in the playoffs last season. Who said anything about Finals MVP? Where are you even getting these points? The thread was about a fake commercial where Jordan's words are used to make LeBron James look bad for making excuses. Kobe was never mentioned until you brought him up in your strange "analogy". I have no idea how to defend my side because you keep changing my side. Why don't you go back and reread the thread. I said it didn't make sense to compare LeBron to two players who have won multiple championships. Seriously, you ramble on and make claims but you're making very little sense. You're arguing with yourself here because I have no idea what you're talking about.
I'll be brief, in a concise way that even you, can understand. 1. How can you complain about comparing a "multiple" champion to James, and then say you didn't infer he was clutch? You're destroying your own argument, titles mean nothing without the intangible and mythical qualities. 2. This commercial is Kobe approved, and made for all the people in the world that love to talk about intangibles. It's for Laker fans too, as you can see in this thread. 3. I then made a comment to a Laker Fan in this thread (who I respect actually), about someone from the Lakers, to expose a sanctimonious idea. And then I got into a discussion with Moo (who I also respect, though he may not think it). It started as a personal discussion with LA people here. If you also don't feel like supporting your statements, that's fine. Why get involved? Don't next time. :]
