Who are the top ten shooting guards?? Simple enough question...or is it? NOTE: i'm counting guys like Gilbert Arenas and Allen Iverson as Point Guards and guys like LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony as Small Fowards. Please do the same. 1.Kobe Bryant2.Tracy McGrady3.Dwyane Wade4.Paul Pierce5.Ray Allen6.Michael Redd7.Vince Carter8.Joe Johnson9.Rip Hamilton10.Jason Richardson
Rip is more valuable to a team than Johnson, despite overall ability. I know many who'd pick him OVER johnson. Also, even though I despise VC like many, I have to say he's better than Michael Redd. Rest of the list looks pretty well done.
1. kobe bryant-81 points.........2. dwyane wade :rock: -up and rising superstar. it's only his 3rd season and he's already holding his own and gets to the line like its his effin job.3. gilbert arenas- loves to shoot from the outside and slices through the D with ease. very elusive and lightning quick.4. ray allen- best shooter in the nba with the best looking shot as well. lights out.5. rip hamilton- high percentage shooter and every time i watch him he always takes the right shot.6. vince carter- crazy athlete still and really improved after dogging it in toronto. still one of the best.7.paul pierce- i hate the guy, mostly because dogma beats off to him but that's another story. he's a good shooter from the outside and is one of the best guys at getting to the line like my boy d-wade.8.michael redd- great shooter and he's been improving his overall game every year. not bad for a second round pick.9. jason richardson- he could probably dunk without any legs. he has improved his shot selection and every year his scoring has gone up. every year he has gotten better and he's also a good rebounder for a guard with about 6 board a game this year.10. joe johnson- a good player for a crappy team. very good shooter but he takes a lot of threes.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nykfan4life @ Jun 8 2006, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. kobe bryant-81 points.........2. dwyane wade :rock: -up and rising superstar. it's only his 3rd season and he's already holding his own and gets to the line like its his effin job.3. gilbert arenas- loves to shoot from the outside and slices through the D with ease. very elusive and lightning quick.4. ray allen- best shooter in the nba with the best looking shot as well. lights out.5. rip hamilton- high percentage shooter and every time i watch him he always takes the right shot.6. vince carter- crazy athlete still and really improved after dogging it in toronto. still one of the best.7.paul pierce- i hate the guy, mostly because dogma beats off to him but that's another story. he's a good shooter from the outside and is one of the best guys at getting to the line like my boy d-wade.8.michael redd- great shooter and he's been improving his overall game every year. not bad for a second round pick.9. jason richardson- he could probably dunk without any legs. he has improved his shot selection and every year his scoring has gone up. every year he has gotten better and he's also a good rebounder for a guard with about 6 board a game this year.10. joe johnson- a good player for a crappy team. very good shooter but he takes a lot of threes.</div>Rip Hamilton is better than Paul Pierce and Vince Carter? Okay... :thumbdn1:
1. Kobe Bryant2. Dwyane Wade3. Tracy McGrady4. Paul Pierce5. Vince Carter6. Ray Allen7. Rip Hamilton8. Joe Johnson9. Jason Richardson10. Michael Redd :dribble:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jun 8 2006, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Rip Hamilton is better than Paul Pierce and Vince Carter? Okay... :thumbdn1:</div>wow you have such a good reason why you disagree. how many times has paul pierce and vince carter been to the finals? oh allow me to answer that for you, none. ok so shut your mouth and move on.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nykfan4life @ Jun 8 2006, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>wow you have such a good reason why you disagree. how many times has paul pierce and vince carter been to the finals? oh allow me to answer that for you, none. ok so shut your mouth and move on.</div>Talent wise, Pierce and Carter head and shoulders over Rip. Rip plays on a team that is loaded with talent while Pierce's team is very young and not that great as of now. Carter's teams have always been mediocre. Plus this isnt about what shooting guard has the best team, because if that was the case Adrian Griffin would have to have a top 2 spot being on the Mavs. Rip is not better than Vince or Pierce. Pierce and Carter have the ablility to take over a game. Rip cant do that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pjcolpitts @ Jun 8 2006, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Talent wise, Pierce and Carter head and shoulders over Rip. Rip plays on a team that is loaded with talent while Pierce's team is very young and not that great as of now. Carter's teams have always been mediocre. Plus this isnt about what shooting guard has the best team, because if that was the case Adrian Griffin would have to have a top 2 spot being on the Mavs. Rip is not better than Vince or Pierce. Pierce and Carter have the ablility to take over a game. Rip cant do that.</div>Well okay then. Steal my answer..nykfan your not considering talent obviously. You are saying, since Rip has 4 maybe 5 all-stars on his team, and hes been to the finals a bunch. He is automaticly better than Vince and PP. Your wrong. This is talent wise, not which shooting guard went to the finals the most. Talent wise I would take PP or Vince over Rip any day of the year.
well i did put rip before them because i like him more then vince and pierce. probably not a good reason but hey it's a free country.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jun 8 2006, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well okay then. Steal my answer..nykfan your not considering talent obviously. You are saying, since Rip has 4 maybe 5 all-stars on his team, and hes been to the finals a bunch. He is automaticly better than Vince and PP. Your wrong. This is talent wise, not which shooting guard went to the finals the most. Talent wise I would take PP or Vince over Rip any day of the year.</div>alright i'll revise it to make you happy. 1. kobe bryant2. dwyane wade :rock: 3. gilbert arenas4. ray allen5. vince carter6. paul pierce7. rip hamilton8.michael redd9. jason richardson10. joe johnson
On the origianal list, I would take Dwayne over TMac right now, simply because TMac has proven to be unreliable, while Wade continues to get better and better. Wade takes much better shots, and while he doesn't have as good a jumper, as a better passer and more consistent defender. I know TMac had that one series against Dirk last year where he held him to 39% shooting, but Wade held Rip to 36% shooting this series. That's gotta count for something
1. Kobe Bryant2. Tracy McGrady3. Dwayne Wade4. Paul Pierce5. Vince Carter6. Ray Allen7. Jason Richardson8. Joe Johnson9. Rip Hamilton10. Michael Reddhonotable mention:Jamaal Crawford,Ben Gordon
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Jun 8 2006, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. Kobe Bryant2. Tracy McGrady3. Dwayne Wade4. Paul Pierce5. Vince Carter6. Ray Allen7. Jason Richardson8. Joe Johnson9. Rip Hamilton10. Michael Reddhonotable mention:Jamaal Crawford,Ben Gordon </div>Isn't Pierce a three man? He's played SF his whole career if I'm not mistaken
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Jun 8 2006, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't Pierce a three man? He's played SF his whole career if I'm not mistaken</div>i sa other people also put him on their list so i figured he was being considerd a shooting guard
ESPN.com has him as a G-F while NBA.com has him as a F-G. I personally think he is more of a Gaurd than a Foward. I guess its your call.
T-Mac - SF and has been his whole stay with Houston.Arenas - Scores like a SG, yes, but plays PG and dishes the ball as well.1. Kobe Bryant aka "81"There shouldn't be ANY dispute with this one. In my opinion he is the best player in the world. I really don't have to say anything more but I will. He can score at ease, with little effort even, on anybody in the league. Sure a couple people (Bowen/Artest) can <u>slow</u> him down a bit, but nobody can <u>shut</u> him down. He is fearless, has a killer instict like Jordan, and not to mention his 3 rings and is a leader. But what I love about him the most is the fact that he is also a top 5 perimiter defender in the NBA.2. Dwyane Wade aka "Flash"2nd best young star in the league besides LeBron, no question. He makes acrobatic moves I only dream of doing, he has a mid-range game that is rare, he makes his teammates better, and his shot is improving. But the thing I love about Flash the most is how humble he is. I mean deep down he knows he is an incredible player, but you couldn't pay him to tell you that. He's a great guy, loves his wife, and he is an incredible teammate.3. Paul Pierce aka "The Truth"Paul has a very good overall game and is easily the best rebounder in the NBA at the SG position (Bonzi Wells comes in 2nd). He can play SF as well. He is Mr. Clutch/your man late in games, makes his teammates better, great leader, gets to the FT line as well as anyone in the league. He can take you off the dribble, muscle you inside, pop back for a 3 in your face or not, or he can simply pull his signature step-back and drain a mid-range shot in your face. Very efficient. He doesn't need 30 shots to score 35 points, he needs about 15-17 with some FT's. I like that about him. Very underrated, would get a hell of a lot more recognition from SportsCenter and whatnot if we were winning some more games.4. Vince Carter aka "Vinsanity"Vince has a great game as well. I mean we all know he's on SportsCenter every single night with his crazy athleticism and dunking, but that's not all VC is about. When he's hot, you can't stop him from 3 either. He is a better passer than given credit for too. He maybe isn't the same VC from his earlier years in Toronto, but he's close to it and can still throw it down like no other.5. Ray Allen aka "Jesus Shuttlesworth" <--- lolJesus! Haha. I had a tough time putting him under Vince because it's close. But Ray Ray has the best jump shot in the NBA, no question in my eyes. He broke the total 3-pt record this year as well. But he's not just a shooter. He can get to the rim and actually is a decent dunker when he wants to be. He is a better passer than he gets credit for (just like VC). But what I love is his leadership. He's a great guy who pushes his teammates, but at the same time stays professional and is likeable.6. Richard Hamilton aka "Rip"Maybe not the 6th best individually talented SG in the NBA, but he is so damn important to a team. He doesn't get enough credit for his defense either. People say "Yeah, it's easy to look good on D when you have Ben, Sheed, Tayshaun, and Billups out there with you" but thats a load of BS. Rip is a good defender. He also reminds me of Reggie Miller in the sense that he is slim as hell, but can out-run any guy defending him. Rip is probably the best conditioned athlete in the NBA (just because he isn't ripped like LBJ doesn't mean he's not the best conditioned). He has the BEST mid-range game in the league as well and that isn't as common as you would think.7. Joe Johnson aka "JJ"He is so underrated and I also had a tough time not putting him 6th. He can play and guard 3 positions, handle the ball, shoot the ball, drive, make athletic plays, you name it he can probably do it. He is a very underrated defender as well and is actually a relatively good defender. He has the size, shemes, and length to guard a 2 or a 3, but also has the quickness to keep up with some PG's. I really like his game, am pissed my Celtics gave up on him, and I think had he stayed in Phoenix, they would be playing Miami for the title right now.8. Michael Redd can't think of a nickname if he has one I am going to get bashed a little for this one, but I don't care. He has an unbelievably wierd looking shot, but a damn quick one, and one that is money from anywhere. He is a deadly shooter from 3 or a long 2. He is quicker than expected and runs the floor well. He is also an ok defender, an overrated one, but a decent one. Also, he has really improved his going-to-the-basket game from 2 years ago. But the reason I have him at 8 when you guys have him higher is that other than score 25 a night he really doesn't do much else. He doesn't make guys better, he doesn't rebound the ball, he doesn't overly hustle, etc. But if this was based on scoring, he would be probably 6th behind Allen.9. Jason Richardson aka "J-Rich"J-Rich is such an underrated young wing. He can do a lot of things. He is a guy that is a top 3 dunker in the NBA, arguably #1, who is gunna throw down a highlight in the open court or put you on a poster. But he is also a good 3-pt shooter, decent mid-range shooter, good rebounder for his height, and a good defender. He doesn't get any recognition anymore because he isn't allowed to be in dunk contests anymore (due to new dumb rules), and I think that's good and bad. Good because he shouldn't just get recognition because of dunking. But bad because he is a good player. I hope either gets out of Golden State to a team with more wins or I hope GS starts winning ballgames.10. Ricky Davis aka "Ricky D"He is also a freakish athlete and nasty dunker. But he also has one of the best mid-range jumpers in the NBA, above average defender, good passer, and a true hustler. Ricky can get out in transition and throw down a SC Top 10 highlight, he can use his quick pull-up from 15-18 feet, he can knock down a 3, and also create a play for a teammate. He may cheat on defense at times and reach, but he also can shut you down a few times up the floor when he really sets his mind to it. He also has 100% completely turned around his image/attitude since his days in Cleveland. He really is a good guy.OK and about Pierce, he plays both SG and SF. Back in the Antoine era when we had Eric Williams, Pierce played SG 85% of the time. Then we traded him, ended up with Ricky Davis. Then Pierce shifted to SF. THEN, now that we have Wally, Paul has reverted back to the SG position and has had the best year of his career.So Pierce is a SG. He really only had 2 years as a "full-time SF."
Loved your post. However, I don't see how Tmac doesn't make the list. If Pierce is a SG, and has only had 2 years at SF, McGrady should make the list as well. His two years in Houston are the only time he has been a SF. In Toronto and Orlando he was a SG.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Jun 8 2006, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Loved your post. However, I don't see how Tmac doesn't make the list. If Pierce is a SG, and has only had 2 years at SF, McGrady should make the list as well. His two years in Houston are the only time he has been a SF. In Toronto and Orlando he was a SG.</div>But the thing is, Pierce does play SG as of right now. T-Mac (when healthy) plays SF as of right now. If you asked me this question in 2002, T-Mac would be #2 on this list.
I just can't wait untill tmac returns next season and punks everyone on this thread. What i saw from Tmac in 2003 i have not seen from wade. Now you may say Tmac may never return to playing like that but we'll see about that.My list1- Kobe2- Tmac3- WadeThe other 7 don't matter.edit: Lol@ kmart. You're comparing tmac shutting down a 7 footer jump shooter to a guy who scores off screens and isn't really good at creating his own shots isoloation. Not even a comparision.And one more thing, Ron artest can't stop carmelo anthony let alone Kobe. And before anyone points out their last game, i watched that game and ron artest's defense wasn't good. Melo just couldn't score.
