How do you use diplomacy with people like this?

I called this would happen way back when those two Al Gore documentary employees were bartered for. I speculated it was a "look the other way" type of deal.

 

Since we and Japan and S Korea deliberately provoked most of these defensive reactions in order to make N Korea look like madmen, I guess it's already planned out. I suspect we are planning an all-out invasion.

 

I wouldn't mind if we invaded, it could turn into a useful term paper subject for me.

 

Can we nuke them first and fast?

 

There's only one thing bullies understand.

Force.

That's my solution.

If I were President and NK or Iran... torpedoed one of our ships there'd be repercussions they would regret for many years to come.

 

Wow, you're so cool.

Good luck taking out all their nuclear silos. If USA were to make a move, it definitely wouldn't be a nuclear bomb. If NK so much as smell a Yank near their border they'll launch their whole arsenal at the US - It would be a cluster fuck.

If there was an all out war I'd enlist in a heartbeat though.

 

HAHAHAHA!!

No wonder you cry a lot.

It's a matter of having some balls. We had people like Hitler, Bin Laden, Hussein... because people wouldn't stand up to them. When people do, we never hear about them because they go away.

Read your history. Bullies are cowards. Punch them in the nose, they go away. I've lived my life that way and have never seen it any different.

 

You obviously didn't read my post.

When did I say you shouldn't invade NK with force? I just said that attacking NK would be a bad move no matter what tactic you use.

Oh, I can tell that you're fat and that your favourite food is meatloaf. Damn Septics.

 

Rather than responding to your childish and personal insults with the same, let me say that I still would have sunk that sub or at least sank one of theirs (at a minimum). And guess what? It doesn't happen again. When a government shows weakness to an avowed enemy, why should it expect the bully to stop? I think I can guarantee you that NK would not have nuked Sk if it had responded with a bitch slap. NK would have respected it and backed down. Instead, they bombed SK and still SK whimpered away. SK got what they deserved. Disrespect.

 

That's because SK would get absolutely raped. The pay off isn't even worth it. World powers on the other hand...

PS. Does that mean my insults are true?

 

Well, we can agree to disagree on SK. I can respect that.

As to your insults, I'm a little above those. Maybe start an insult thread and I'll join in.

 

At least you don't bitch about them.

 

The key issue is China won't get on board with an invasion. Just last week they sent some delegates to show support to NK.

The other issue is the citizenry is essentially being held hostage. Do we try to minimize civilian casualties or do we just bomb the shit out of the country until they surrender?

One solution would be get as many players in the region to participate in a massive land invasion. South Korea would obviously have to commit. Japan has some offensive capabilities, like fighter jets and tanks. U.S. and Russia could fill in as much as possible. China would possibly tolerate the invasion but they would never participate. A few strategic bombing would disable any nuclear capabilities in the North.

The other option would be taking out the leadership in a bombing campaign like we did in Iraq. We would still need to dispatch thousands of troops to handle the transition. The people might be so brainwashed that we could see an insurgence there too.

 

Can't we just nuke Ronan?