I'd hardly say that I've "turned" on Roy. I think I've just accepted his reality before he has. If you call that turning on Roy, so be it.
I understood it and found it well-reasoned. Perhaps you could try to use more than a sentence in any given post to add some depth to your own thoughts? I'll take a good rant over an angry sentence all day and every day.
All I type is one sentence in my posts? Okay. I read the whole thing, good points. But, that doesn't take away from the fact that it was hard to read because there was no structure.
Are you the grammar police these days? If so, you may want to work on your "your" and "you're" game. I suppose I could waste posts correcting those frequent mistakes, but I don't, since I understand what you're communicating in your posts, bad grammar or otherwise.
Once again proving to everybody what a class dude you are? I see he agreed with me, he fixed it. Hardly grammar police, more like letting him know that if he used paragraphs it would make it easier to read. Are you in the mood to pick fights again? I feel like making you change screenames again.
It's pretty well-known that I lack class when engaging with fellow agitators like you, or nuance in general for stating my opinions with anyone. The same can be said for you, as you proved in this thread. Are you trying to take over my victim act? I have some pointers for you.
My point is, this isn't Roy's first time complaining to the media or stirring the pot, and some fans are tired of it. It was one thing when he was an All-Star caliber player, but now he's just an overpaid, injured, role player. Which one of those points were my own opinion? They were all reported in the Oregonian. Why would I list positives? It wasn't a timeline of his career. It was a list of all the times I can think of where he has complained to the media, or has used his status as the cornerstone of the franchise to influence the team. I have no idea what my mod status has to do with my posts about the team. BTW you forgot your patented emoticon.
So you do not think playing next to Miller has made any difference in his statistical output? Do you have access to his medical records? I do not have a problem with what Roy as said now and in the past. It is up to Nate and Cho to find something that works.
I'm not going to search through old archives to find a link, but Roy definitely had a problem with Oden's new place in the offense. I remember him saying, repeatedly, that he wanted it to be more like last year (which is now 2 years ago) where he and L.A. ran pick & rolls much of the game. He also almost never passed the ball into Oden on the post....I remember wondering how big of a problem it would become....but Oden couldn't stay healthy long enough for it to amount to too much.
We don't need his medical records we already have his basketball "records" from last year when he and Miller played together plenty. The only difference between this year and last year are him looking much more hobbled and multiple comments from Brandon about his knees giving him trouble ... and he did have another knee surgery in April. True nuff, but Roy has to be willing to adapt and modify his game given the new set of realities he's facing with the shape his body is in. And really no matter how "honest" and open he's being, it's really bad form to throw your teammates under the bus with all of this passive aggressive nonsense he's spewing to the press; that should never become public knowledge.
Bingo. This isn't a case of fans turning on a good player because the team lost in the first round. This is a guy who is no longer a franchise player....and until he "gets it", he is going to hold the team back. I know Roy has done some good things for this franchise, and it sounds cold to say that his feelings/ego don't matter - but what is the alternative?
Roy has done good things for the franchise and has been more than amply rewarded for them. Even if we stipulate that Roy was underpaid until this season, the contract extension will more than remedy that considering the Blazers are unlikely to get anything like value for the money going forward. I don't begrudge Roy the money he'll be getting, but I don't think it's reasonable to suggest that Roy has "done so much for the franchise" as though he did it out of generosity and the franchise or fans owe him anything. Roy played some great basketball for the team and will be a millionaire many times over due to that. It's absolutely fair to judge him entirely by what he is now...both on the court and off. Not by what he once was or did.
Double post--sorry! But just read this great post from Ben at Blazersedge about Roy coming off the bench. After reading it I can understand the reluctance to try it out...I still feel like it could work. I mean we played pretty well when Roy wasn't playing for that week or so right? Here's the story
Two things: One, Portland fans (and fans in general) tend to want more production from players based on the amount of money they receive. When a player plays at a high level, gets a huge deal, then plays worse then before you can't help but wonder if they just don't care as much now that they got paid. I don't know if this is the case with B-Roy or not (I actually doubt it is) but it still crosses peoples minds. Two, the Portland media has always tried to fuck this team over. I can remember columns from Dwight Jaynes telling everyone how fucking lazy Drexler was or how stupid the coach was (pick which ever coach you want). My default assumption is that any quote from any player you can find in the Oregonian is both edited AND taken out of context in order to either stir the pot or tarnish a players reputation. Long story short, B-Roy is in a position where people will naturally doubt him to some degree and J-Quick and the Gang smell blood on the water. I don't give Quick much credence at the best of times. Why would I do so know that the team is trending downward towards the lottery?
