would you guys do Roy and Przy for Vince Carters expiring? He only has a small guarantee for next yr, it works in trade checker. All of a sudden depending on what we do with Camby and Miller we could have some significant capspace.
Fucking A. Cap space. Nobody wants to come to Portland. Only trades we'd likely make with it are for someone else's overpaid player. Uhm, a big hell no from me.
I'm amazed that you guys think just getting an expiring for Roy and Przy (expiring as well) is some awful trade, it isn't, his contract is now one of the worst in the NBA and will hinder us for the next 5 years
Repost from another thread: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=254jeey 3-way with NY & Denver. Roy to Denver with Wilson Chandler. Carmelo to NY with Miller & Dante. Raymond Felton & Eddy Curry here. Denver probably wouldn't do it, but it's a thought.
Creeping just barely under the cap won't do much for the team. If the team can't get actual on-court value for Roy, I'd rather keep him and see how he adapts to his new physical realities. Even if he comes off the bench, he can provide solid value to the team. Obviously, nothing approaching value for the money paid to him, but non-zero value.
Many would argue the way he's playing and plays with the players we have is "non-zero" as you say. Get rid of nate and make it a clean sweep.
Many might argue that. However, he's starting and his best role may be off the bench. Secondly, he's still in the first few weeks of "new Roy." I'd guess it takes longer than that to determine the optimal way for him to play with his new physical situation. In any case, I don't even agree with people who feel he provides zero value. If he were an unknown making the minimum, people would probably be quite pleased with his output. People are reacting to what he's producing relative to his salary and what he's done in the past. Not to his actual value, if they believe it to be zero.
You do realize that Portland has some of best food in the country. Bringing Eddy Curry to Portland would be extremely cruel. Also, Curry sucks and cap space for Portland is completely wasted.
Not about cap space--Curry is just salary filler. More interested in Felton as PGOTF, as well as shedding an albatross contract.
If we were offered Felton and Curry for Roy and Miller, I think you have to do it. Hell, I might throw in one of our firsts.
wow what? you think having him and his huge contract for four more years after this is a positive for this franchise? and it's likely his knees will keep deteriorating over the length of that contract. I have no emotional attachment to Roy and am tired of watching this team trying to conform to his style of play, and that style is no longer working because of his diminished play, I say move on if at all possible. Unfortunately trading Roy is likely a pipe dream as other GM's won't touch that albatross of a contract.
please. Portland teams have "rebuilt" once in 30 years. And that was going decently until they hitched their wagon to Roy and LMA for near-max contracts. You know what's "fun"? Year after year of first-round playoff exits. 18 combined series wins in 28 playoff appearances in 40 years. 1 championship.
Doing something fairly realistic.... That to me means trading Roy to a team that would be willing to waive the physical because they believe he is the difference between playing and vacationing in late June... I propose this deal. Somehow getting involved with the Knicks and Nuggets might work? Melo and Roy to the Knicks would put them right there.
Bunch of dreamers. If a team will take Roy for free, and we only have to pay them half his paycheck for the next 5 years, we should jump at it. Not only is he a detriment in salary planning, he thinks he's the best player on the team. Bad attitude, bad money, bad playing ability. If you haven't noticed, Roy can't even make unguarded outside shots anymore, shots that require no leaping or knee pivoting. Rudy, who misses plenty too, provides more than Roy because he stays in the lane more, looking to disrupt and pick up loose balls.
Yes. Until giving Roy and LMA almost-max extensions, we were PRO-gressing. Now, we're RE-gressing. That's about the point that the derivative flipped from positive to negative. Unless you disagree? I'm not seeing a lot of fact-based opinion from your side.
