Nobody really saw Louis Williams last year...he didn't play in most games...and you can't gauge a player when he plays 8 minutes.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jun 10 2006, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey he is getting old though and he does get injured easily. Picking a pg would be a safe pick and we could use one to bring more depth in that position. I still do say though we need to get sheldan williams to bring more defense to the team. Also we have Kyle Korver playing sg. Sure hes bigger but hes no better at defense than AI is. If you are just judging this by height then if we do draft Mardy Collins since hes 6'6 he can just guard the 2 guard and AI can guard the pg. Really though if it was that bad of a problem AI would'nt have been sg for 7 seasons straight.</div>You have enough average pg's behind AI. When AI starts to decline, then you pick a good pg, but there is no use now, because whoever it is would get 0 minutes behind one of the games best. Bigger concerns are sg and pf. Chris Webber is aging, and probably wont be along much longer, and Kyle Korver won't do it, starting at sg.Mardy Collins? Please, I bet he won't amount to anything.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jun 10 2006, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You have enough average pg's behind AI. When AI starts to decline, then you pick a good pg, but there is no use now, because whoever it is would get 0 minutes behind one of the games best. Bigger concerns are sg and pf. Chris Webber is aging, and probably wont be along much longer, and Kyle Korver won't do it, starting at sg.Mardy Collins? Please, I bet he won't amount to anything.</div>Ok please just stop talking like you know the Sixers well. Its really just making you look stupider honestly. We dont have any average point guards behind AI. Besides Louis Williams we dont even have a real player who's true position is point guard. And yes the person would get minutes because AI would go back to sg. BTW any evidence why Collins won't amount to anything???
76ers Depth Chart PG - Allen Iverson / Kevin Ollie SG - Kyle Korver / Willie Green / Louis Williams SF - Andre Iguodala / John Salmons / Matt Barnes PF - Chris Webber / Shavlik Randolph / Michael Bradley C - Samuel Dalembert / Steven Hunter
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jun 10 2006, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ok please just stop talking like you know the Sixers well. Its really just making you look stupider honestly. We dont have any average point guards behind AI. Besides Louis Williams we dont even have a real player who's true position is point guard. And yes the person would get minutes because AI would go back to sg. BTW any evidence why Collins won't amount to anything???</div>AI is not going back to 6"0..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jun 10 2006, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>AI is not going back to 6"0..</div>What are you talking about??? That post makes o sense. Also you still havent said how you know Mardy Collins won't amount to anything.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jun 10 2006, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Mardy Collins will be an average NBA player, he's not that great at anything.</div>I know he won't be great im not expecting that out of him. I do think though hell be better than a player that doesnt amount to anything though like cb4 says he will and i wanna know what actual reasons he has for thinking that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jun 10 2006, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What are you talking about??? That post makes o sense. Also you still havent said how you know Mardy Collins won't amount to anything.</div>Sorry, I meant he won't go back to SG because he is too small. They have no one else to run the offense, so he will play pg probably for the rest of his career. Think about it, an old 6"0 Iverson guarding an sg. That could be a disaster.As for Mardy Collins, he is just average at everything, not athletic, and a poor shooter and scorer..He's projected to go 21st right now, and he might slip even further..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jun 10 2006, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sorry, I meant he won't go back to SG because he is too small. They have no one else to run the offense, so he will play pg probably for the rest of his career. Think about it, an old 6"0 Iverson guarding an sg. That could be a disaster.As for Mardy Collins, he is just average at everything, not athletic, and a poor shooter and scorer..He's projected to go 21st right now, and he might slip even further..</div>Why do you think hes to undersized to play pg??? Have you ever watched Iverson play??? He played sg for 7 straight seasons and did fine. He doesnt need height because of his speed. Hes a great player and one of the hardest to defend in the league get that through your head.
What I disagree with is: - Why would Golden State take a PG? They have Baron Davis, Derek Fisher, and a promising Monta Ellis, plus Will Bynum. That's 4 PG's already. Sure Baron is out sometimes, but Monta Ellis is a player in the future and Fisher is an experienced veteran that has won. - They say Delonte needs a "real PG" backing him up. So they choose Foye over Williams? WTF? Foye is more of a scoring PG than anything, but like I have said, will develope into a good PG. But their point of getting a real PG, then choosing anybody over Marcus Williams, is crazy. - If the Hornets are going to take a PG at 15, Richard Roby isn't the best option. I really like Roby and I think he is going to be a very solid roll player in the future, but New Orleans needs shooting. I would think Redick at 15 would be better for New Orleans than Roby. - Bulls taking Leon Powe? Why? They already have 700 PF's, plus they say Ty Thomas is going there. I think a real center, like Aaron Gray, would be the better fit for Chicago at 16. - Cleveland doesn't need Maurice Ager. He is an undersized SG, and they already have LBJ, Hughes, some Marshall at the 3, and some D-Jones at the 2. They need a PG. Sergio Rodriguez would be great at 24. But overall, this mock is a lot better than half the mock's I see posted here.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jun 10 2006, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Please, they wont put him back at SG. He had major problems defending when he played SG.</div>Oh really he did??? So then that would mean you watched the Sixers all the time like i did when he played sg huh??? He did not have major problems defending sg when he was at that position. Hed be better at it then korver would thats for sure. Seriously though stop acting liek you know the Sixers because you obviously don't. your not fooling anyone.
Atleast Korver has height. Why would they mke AI move back again just to draft a pg? AI is fine running the offense, and he is better suited there. Why not draft say, Shannon Brown or someone, or a PF. Cause AI plays pg right now, and he is fine. Don't be ignorant.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jun 10 2006, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Atleast Korver has height. Why would they mke AI move back again just to draft a pg? AI is fine running the offense, and he is better suited there. Why not draft say, Shannon Brown or someone, or a PF. Cause AI plays pg right now, and he is fine. Don't be ignorant.</div>LMAO don't be ignorant??? Your the one being ignorant thinking you know a team you dont even follow better than a diehard fan. Yes we can use a big man I am aware of that and have said. im saying we can also use more depth at the point guard spot why do you not get that. We don't have one true point guard on that team. Figure that ou. there is AI and a really old Kevin Ollie. John Salmons isn't a pg. AI can still play sg fine and he's fine defensively. Height doesn't matter. AI can do a better defensive job that Korver can anyday. Stop saying AI is better suited at a place that isn't even his natural position. Get that through your head. he is a sg and he plays there best. The Sixers arent lookign for hel;p right now they are drafting for the future. We are fine right now. We need to get a player that can strengthen our bench now and become a starter in the future. We already have a great starting lineup and no bench. I know AI is fine running the offense now but he wont be in 5 years. Figure that out. All im saying is getting a pg will let him play sg more than he can now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jun 11 2006, 12:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LMAO don't be ignorant??? Your the one being ignorant thinking you know a team you dont even follow better than a diehard fan. Yes we can use a big man I am aware of that and have said. im saying we can also use more depth at the point guard spot why do you not get that. We don't have one true point guard on that team. Figure that ou. there is AI and a really old Kevin Ollie. John Salmons isn't a pg. AI can still play sg fine and he's fine defensively. Height doesn't matter. AI can do a better defensive job that Korver can anyday. Stop saying AI is better suited at a place that isn't even his natural position. Get that through your head. he is a sg and he plays there best. The Sixers arent lookign for hel;p right now they are drafting for the future. We are fine right now. We need to get a player that can strengthen our bench now and become a starter in the future. We already have a great starting lineup and no bench. I know AI is fine running the offense now but he wont be in 5 years. Figure that out. All im saying is getting a pg will let him play sg more than he can now.</div>Diehard fan? Please..You probably only like the Sixers because of Allen Iverson. You live in the Bay Area. Your probably just some fan boy. Why do you draft a lottery pg so he can play 7 minutes behind Allen Iverson? Drafting Louis Williams was enough last year. You don't need depth at a position when a player plays 40-42 minutes there a game. You don't have a true pg, but AI plays there. There is AI, Kevin Ollie, and Louis Williams. How is a lottery pick going to find time beneath that depth chart? You really are pretty thick, aren't you? He isn't fine defensively, and I doubt they put him back at sg. He is too short, and a bad defender all together. They don't want players burning him on the wing. Height does matter when defending. Why do you think Earl Boykins doesn't get much time? He is a defensive nightmare for his coaches. Because of his height, he can not cover guys bigger than him, and even if he tries hard defensively, he will still get burned. Now look at AI, he doesnt even try defensively, and he would be guarding guys 6 inches taller than him again. You're like 12 years old, arent you? You've probably been watching the NBA for about 2 years havn't you? Just admit it. I havnt been watching for much, either. That's the thing, Kyle Korver ISN'T your answer at SG. That's why you will probably draft a SG, because that is your biggest need, not pg. Don't you get it? Why move AI to sg, and try to find a pg to run the team, when you can just draft a sg and let him and korver split time at SG? He is a SG, but so what? He plays PG now, and he is not switching back, just so you can draft your little fantasy Mardy Collins. You don't need a PG, so why are you wasting your time, debating this?Whatever, if you still don't GET IT after this post, I wont try to fit it through your head again. No offense man, just trying to use some harsh words to get the point across. Sorry if I offended you. Try not to say half the sh*t I say seruiously. Anyway, yeah, ill go post this now..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jun 10 2006, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Diehard fan? Please..You probably only like the Sixers because of Allen Iverson. You live in the Bay Area. Your probably just some fan boy. Why do you draft a lottery pg so he can play 7 minutes behind Allen Iverson? Drafting Louis Williams was enough last year. You don't need depth at a position when a player plays 40-42 minutes there a game. You don't have a true pg, but AI plays there. There is AI, Kevin Ollie, and Louis Williams. How is a lottery pick going to find time beneath that depth chart? You really are pretty thick, aren't you? He isn't fine defensively, and I doubt they put him back at sg. He is too short, and a bad defender all together. They don't want players burning him on the wing. Height does matter when defending. Why do you think Earl Boykins doesn't get much time? He is a defensive nightmare for his coaches. Because of his height, he can not cover guys bigger than him, and even if he tries hard defensively, he will still get burned. Now look at AI, he doesnt even try defensively, and he would be guarding guys 6 inches taller than him again. You're like 12 years old, arent you? You've probably been watching the NBA for about 2 years havn't you? Just admit it. I havnt been watching for much, either. That's the thing, Kyle Korver ISN'T your answer at SG. That's why you will probably draft a SG, because that is your biggest need, not pg. Don't you get it? Why move AI to sg, and try to find a pg to run the team, when you can just draft a sg and let him and korver split time at SG? He is a SG, but so what? He plays PG now, and he is not switching back, just so you can draft your little fantasy Mardy Collins. You don't need a PG, so why are you wasting your time, debating this?Whatever, if you still don't GET IT after this post, I wont try to fit it through your head again. No offense man, just trying to use some harsh words to get the point across. Sorry if I offended you. Try not to say half the sh*t I say seruiously. Anyway, yeah, ill go post this now..</div>OK NOW YOU REALLY PISSED ME OFF!!! DO NOT EVER CALL ME A SIXERS FAN JUST BECAUSE OF AI. I WAS A FUN OF THE SIXERS BEFORE I LIKE AI BUDDY. YES I DIDNT BECOME A FAN TILL 2000 BUT IT WASNT BECAUSE OF AI. I AM A HUGE SIXERS FAN. IM NOT LYING WHEN I SAY EVERY SIXERS GAME THAT WASN'T ON TV I FOLLOWED ON THE YAHOO GAME CHANNEL. EVERY SINGLE ONE UNLESS I WAS GONE. THE ONLY TEAM I LIKE FROM THE BAY AREA IS THE GIANTS. IM A NY GIANTS FAN FOR FOOTBALL AND A NJ DEVILS FAN FOR HOCKEY OK. IM A HUGE SIXERS FAN AND I MEAN A HUGE ONE. BELIEVE ME IM OBSESSED W/ THEM. SO DONT SAY IM JUST SOME FANBOY BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW ME AT ALL. LAST FIGURE IT OUT!!!!! WERE NOT DRAFTING FOR SOMENE TO START NOW. WE HAVE A GREAT STARTING 5 AND NO BENCH. WE ARE GONNA DRAFT FOR SOMEONE TO PLAY THE BENCH NOW BUT BE ABLE TO START FOR THE FUTURE!!! KEVIN OLLIE ONLY HAS A FEW SEASONS LEFT AND YOU CANNOT REALLY KNOW HOW LONG AI IS BECAUSE OF HOW HARD OF A BEATING HE TAKES ALMOST EVERY GAME. WE NEED MORE DEPTH THERE OK. I KNOW MY TEAMS WELL. READ WHAT IM SAYING FOR ONCE. YOU NO YOUR TEAM WERLL AND I KNOW MINE.BTW IM 13 14 IN 2 MONTHS AND I WATCH THE NBA A LOT. I WATCH NBA TV ALL THE TIME AND GAMES ON ESPN OR TNT. I WATCH IT ATON. BELIEVE ME IM OBSESSED W/ BASKETBALL AND ITS ALL I TALK ABOUT EVEN WHEN IM NOT ON THE COMPUTER. ANOTHER THING YOU GOT WRONG ABOUT ME. ALSO LMAO THAT YOU THINK WE DRAFT ANOTHER SG. WE HAVE KORVER, SALMONS, AND WILLIE GREEN. WE DONT NEED ANOTHER. ALSO READ WHAT IM SAYING. I DO FEEL WE SHOULD DRAFT SHELDAN WILLIANS SINCE C-WEBB IS OLD AND WE DONT HAVE MUCH DEPTH BEHGIND HIM. IM SAYING IF HES ALREADY TAKEN A BACKUP PG NEEDS TO BE OUR SECOND OPTION.
Settle down there chief.... The 76ers have depth everywhere and they have to prepare for life without Iverson. They need a solid PG. They have Korver and Iguodala and Green...AI can easily slide to the 2 which hes played for years and Rondo can play point making Korver the 6th man...I see no problem with this...the only other hole they have is a backup PF which isn't that big of a deal. Makes more sense to draft a PG than anything else.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jun 10 2006, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Settle down there chief.... The 76ers have depth everywhere and they have to prepare for life without Iverson. They need a solid PG. They have Korver and Iguodala and Green...AI can easily slide to the 2 which hes played for years and Rondo can play point making Korver the 6th man...I see no problem with this...the only other hole they have is a backup PF which isn't that big of a deal.</div>Ok sorry but he pretty much pissed me off there saying im just a fanboy. anyways thsnkyou though. this is exactly what ive been saying but he doesnt seem to get it when im saying it so maybe he will when he reads it from you.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jun 11 2006, 04:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ok sorry but he pretty much pissed me off there saying im just a fanboy. anyways thsnkyou though. this is exactly what ive been saying but he doesnt seem to get it when im saying it so maybe he will when he reads it from you.</div> Yeah, CB4 is making too big of a deal over where Allen Iverson plays and doesn't seem to understand that the 76ers only have Iverson and Ollie at PG.
