Remotely plausible Roy trades?

For a team like Dallas that has no chance, if trading for Roy can get them Camby for a really quick run to push them over the top you have to do it. I figure the Dirk-led Mavricks have about 5 years left anyway, so where's the harm. Its not like they'll be able to get any impact players to push them over the top anyways. All they lose are some scrubs that expire in 2 years...

 

Hey Kingspeed help me out. What's that thing in chess when your king runs out of moves and your opponent has you cornered?

Well whatever it is, that's where this team is in terms of moves with Roy.

 

They've already got Haywood and Chandler. Camby does nothing for them that they don't arlready have.

 

I tried to work one out a few weeks ago. His contract is almost unreadable as a BYC

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a) That's only the sole criterion for actually non-playing...erm, players. And whatever we think about it, Roy actually gets minutes (he has been leading the team in +/-).
b) Players can adapt to their altered situation in the right environment. Two classic examples: Ron Harper (watching him hobble up the court was even more painful than Roy) and Tim Hardaway (he was "bone on bone" when he was still at GSW, which is why Adelman wouldn't play him. But Riley traded for him and he had several great years in Miami.
c) Do we know about "early termination" clauses?
d) Don't underestimate the "oh god, is he STILL on our roster?" mentality that could cause teams to swap headaches.
e) Some of those players have larger contracts so are currently played more, and teams could gamble that either (1) the new CBA would have a "dump crap salaries" option or (2) if Roy's knees are really totally buggered they could get a medical retirement and get Roy off the books.

Don't fixate on length of contract. Sometimes length isn't important, you know!

 

I would wait until we see what happens with the new CBA.

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Have you been watching the games? Roy clearly looks frustrated because he doesn't have what he used to. His lackluster play has nothing to do with him not getting along with Miller.

 

a) as for productivity, I'd take any of those guys you mentioned over the current version of Roy we're seeing on a nightly basis with the exception of maybe Michael Redd, but at least he can catch and shoot.

b) Roy hasn't appeared very "adaptable" during his health crisis. That's understandable from a human perspective, but given his strengths as an NBA player I find it somewhat hard to believe that he's suddenly going to morph into a complimentary type player.

c) He's got a player option for his fifth year, he'd be insane not to exercise it.

d) I still don't see the motivation for taking on his deal in this situation when you'd be stuck with him for 5 years.

e) If the new CBA includes a contract dumping option (like it did the last time) why not just dump your own crap instead of trading for crap? And gambling on medical retirement also raises another question: How does Roy get past a physical?

 

I'd be way ahead of my little brother, laughing at him, and wondering why is this humiliated guy making these stupid moves, exchanging pieces. Then suddenly he'd yell a few times, "STALEMATE" and run laughing out of the room.

If I beat him, he'd run out of the room crying. Chess is more emotional than other sports. For some reason, he hates me now. Wonder why.

 

Brandon Roy and Joel Przybilla for Gilbert Arenas

Boom.

 

As sad as this sounds, The Bullets lose in this deal.

But what the hell, it's probably at least worth floating out there to Ted Leonsis.

 

A deal that might make sense and is something I have read from other Blazer fans. It is a deal that would send him to Orlando for VC's exprining. Why do I think this might make sense? Orlando is looking for star power. Something they can match up with Miami. The Chris Paul deal didn't happen for them but I don't think they have given up making something happen. Roy if he went to Orlando wouldn't have to be the main guy. He can play Robin to Dwight Howard. It is a risk for them. They already have one very poor contract on the books in Rashard Lewis's. This may make them leery to make a move. But it's something worth taking up with Otis Smith.

 

I think I came up with the most plausible deal. What do I win?

 

With Gil Arenas taking up 20+ million a year for the next 3.5 years? Not much.

 

At least it's not 4.5 years!

 

And there's the reason Washington probably balks.

 

I suggested a similar trade in another thread. Arenas' contract is one less year but it's a lot bigger than Roy's and they could get rid of Pryzbilla after one year. Roy is not really a good fit there either though, as Wall is not a strong 3pt shooter. We would need to include other pieces to entice them: maybe whatever three they want of Johnson, Mills, draft picks, Babbit, Williams. I guess Washington would still probably not make the trade unless they feel like keeping Arenas is hurting attendance.

 

By the way, i am still not convinced that Roy's physical condition is really that bad. I am beginning to believe he is not that mentally tough and that he is having trouble pushing through a shooting slump. (This is entirely my own opinion based on my instincts about human behavior, I have absolutely no hard facts to support this opinion). I think the team does need to find a really good three point shooter somehow and pair him with Roy at least part of the games; perhaps he will improve enough to make us a good team again or at least improve enough to make him tradeable.