I think Toronto should do 1 of 2 things in this draft: 1. Take Aldridge, and hope he works hard on his body and gains muscle, and see what happens. or 2. Trade down to someone in the 7-11 range: Package a player with the #1 pick for pick #7-11 and a PG, and draft Patrick O'Bryant. He is probably the best real center in this draft. Aldridge is more of a PF in the NBA due to his lack of muscle and strength. I think O'Bryant would fit nicely in Toronto because he provides a lot of size (legit 7'0''), rebounding ability, work ethic, and strength. That's what a Raptors need more than anything, a big center than is a banger, and is willing to get in and do the dirty work for rebounds. Aldridge wouldn't be a bad pick, and if you guys stay at #1 that's your best bet, but I think O'Bryant fits better because I think Aldridge is more of an NBA PF.
not a bad idea to package the pick for a pg. Orlando is looking to move up. Would they give up Jameer for a #1? Probably not, but who knows?
I wouldn't mind moving down, but I'd much rather go and get Aldridge to complete our frontcourt. Seriously, can you guys believe the front court we would have with Villanueva at SF, Bosh at PF, and Aldridge at Center? All 3 of them have size, and our like 6"11 each, and are strong and athletic, and talented offensively most of all.Aldridge is a good post player, he is good at running the floor, decent mid ranger, good shotblocker, powerful and athletic dunker. We could really use another piece, and guys, we can get a pg next year. There are no pg's around really when we are drafting, and I dont want to draft for position and take Marcus Williams. We need a Center more than a pg anyway. I'm sure Brian will get someone at PG to start for us next year anyway.As for our 2nd, I think we should take Dee Brown, Denham Brown or Hassan Adams. Dee is quick and he can score points, and pass the ball well. Denham is pretty much talented at every part of basketball, and he is from Toronto so he would enjoy playing here. Hassan is athletic and could run the fast break well.
I like Dee Brown and I believe he can be a steal in this draft if he works hard. But he isn't the best fit in Toronto because Roko Ukic is planning on comming over this year or next year. He can be a real decent backup. I think with the 2nd round pick Toronto should draft Mike Gansey if available, if not I agree with Denham Brown. He is a very good shooter, can create a shot, and would be good off the bench with Joey Graham providing defense and athleticism. God, I love Toronto's future. If they do draft Aldridge, don't expect him to come in and be the banger you guys need. Maybe in time, but right now, he is Mark Blount with a little bit more athleticism.
Maybe youre right with Dee. Hopefully we can get a good pg in a trade or in the fa market. But if Roko isnt coming back and Mike James leaves, we need Dee for depth at pg. I could actually see us with 4 pg's for next year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jun 9 2006, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wouldn't mind moving down, but I'd much rather go and get Aldridge to complete our frontcourt. Seriously, can you guys believe the front court we would have with Villanueva at SF, Bosh at PF, and Aldridge at Center? All 3 of them have size, and our like 6"11 each, and are strong and athletic, and talented offensively most of all.Aldridge is a good post player, he is good at running the floor, decent mid ranger, good shotblocker, powerful and athletic dunker. We could really use another piece, and guys, we can get a pg next year. There are no pg's around really when we are drafting, and I dont want to draft for position and take Marcus Williams. We need a Center more than a pg anyway. I'm sure Brian will get someone at PG to start for us next year anyway.As for our 2nd, I think we should take Dee Brown, Denham Brown or Hassan Adams. Dee is quick and he can score points, and pass the ball well. Denham is pretty much talented at every part of basketball, and he is from Toronto so he would enjoy playing here. Hassan is athletic and could run the fast break well.</div>you're problem there is, Charlie Villanueva can't play a lick of defense at SF. Yes, he's athletic, but he moves he feet slowly, and he gets completely burned from what i've seen. In fact, the only one who would ever play defense out of that trio is Aldridge, and you're the one ALWAYS talking about how weak and skinny players canNOT play Center. I think the Raps would be better suited taking Gay, and having a frontcourt of Gay, Bosh, and CV.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jun 9 2006, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>God, I love Toronto's future. If they do draft Aldridge, don't expect him to come in and be the banger you guys need. Maybe in time, but right now, he is Mark Blount with a little bit more athleticism.</div>Not quite, he's actually a superb defender. and he has a good midrange game, so i'd say more like Marcus Camby.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jun 10 2006, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>you're problem there is, Charlie Villanueva can't play a lick of defense at SF. Yes, he's athletic, but he moves he feet slowly, and he gets completely burned from what i've seen. In fact, the only one who would ever play defense out of that trio is Aldridge, and you're the one ALWAYS talking about how weak and skinny players canNOT play Center. I think the Raps would be better suited taking Gay, and having a frontcourt of Gay, Bosh, and CV.Not quite, he's actually a superb defender. and he has a good midrange game, so i'd say more like Marcus Camby.</div>Charlie V can not play Center full time. Villanueva plays SF and Center though. Why would we need a SF lineup of Charlie V, Joey Graham and Rudy Gay. oo much talent there. And your right, we need to work on Charlie's D. He's the worst defender on our team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jun 10 2006, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Charlie V can not play Center full time. Villanueva plays SF and Center though. Why would we need a SF lineup of Charlie V, Joey Graham and Rudy Gay. oo much talent there. And your right, we need to work on Charlie's D. He's the worst defender on our team.</div>I think dogma was saying Bosh could play C and Villanueva would play pf.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jun 10 2006, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think dogma was saying Bosh could play C and Villanueva would play pf.</div>Chris doesn't like to play the 5. He prefers staying at the 4. That's why the Raps need to either draft/sign a big man. I still think that signing Pryzbilla is a good choice for the Raps. He doesn't have to score alot as long as he puts up defensive numbers.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jun 10 2006, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think dogma was saying Bosh could play C and Villanueva would play pf.</div>Why would Chris want to play center and get banged around in there. He did that his rookie year, and he said he'd much rather play PF. So why would we make our best player move positions just to draft Rudy Gay?
Exactly. That's why I said the best 2 options for Toronto would be either Aldridge or trade down for O'Bryant and a PG. Bosh is not fit to play center. I mean he is like KG in the sense that he's very very talented, but skinny as hell. He would just get banged around, like CB4 said. He wouldn't like it, and again like CB4 said, Bosh has already come out and said that he would rather play PF. And he has even said in an interview bascially "No Bargnani. We need a banger, someone that can control the paint."
no, i was saying CV could play Center, bc i knew that Bosh said he didn't want to. But really, people pay too much attention to positions nowadays. I think of them as basketball players who happen to play a certain position. You can't put labels or limits on a person's game. Like nykfan4life was saying that Centers HAVE to play down low, that's not true at all.When it comes to drafting, I'd rather try to fill roles instead of positions. The Raps need a banger inside, a pg, and a slasher. Unfortunately for them, there are no bangers at the top of this draft, and no extraordinary PG's. Rudy Gay could fill that role as a slasher, and he has star potential, so everything works out. Just think about it, they already have their "twin towers" with Bosh and CV, they have the sharpshooter with Mo Pete, and Gay could be the slasher. Then maybe Ukic could come down next year, and man, would they be set. Kinda scary.
CV would get owned at Center fulltime. He is the worst defender on our team. It is tempting though..I think it is down to Gay or Aldridge now.
That's a little different. CV is very athletic, so he could be a good shotblocker, and he is strong. He is capable of guarding most centers, considering most Centers in the league don't have much offense. He'd be fine at C.
Your kidding yourself. Center is the key to defense. People would just own us inisde if Charlie was the full time Center.
Yeah I don't think CV would perfectly fit as a center. I posted this in another thread, but is J.O'neal a possible man for the Raps?http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives...lk_oneal_trade/
Aldridge impressive at workout.http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...rts/Basketball/This makes draft day more intense huh
