Just to keeo heads spinning latest rumor is miller for gortat

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  1. hasoos

    hasoos Well-Known Member

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    Yea nice job with the stats there. In 15 minutes per game. Try using some math, and extrapolate a little bit.
     
  2. Ed O

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    This swap would NOT be dumping Miller. It would be adding a starting-level center who's just entering his prime.

    He might not ever be a quality starter, but good backup 7 footers are pretty valuable, and I doubt that Miller brings us back anything superior in the trade market.

    Ed O.
     
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    Yeah. Lets trade the only healthy blazer, who was the NBA leader in games played consecutively to a less than average center to satisfy the SG with no knees and the most immovable contract in the NBA!
     
  4. Natebishop3

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    Well when you put it like that...... I support this trade.
     
  5. hasoos

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    And at what part of his career was he not playing behind Howard? How many centers would take minutes from Howard? Who would you rather have in? Gortat or Howard? We are talking about him playing behind one of the top centers in the league, for his whole career. Who would you expect to take minutes from Howard? The only guys I can think of, are all legends.
     
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    Is gortat the new ramon sessions?

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    I already posted that he has had to play behind Howard. Me also pointing out that he hasn't proven to be a decent starting center in the NBA is also a fact. Could he be? Sure. Has he been? No. Fairly easy logic, isn't it?
     
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    Good God. Next, someone will post a Miller for Sessions trade idea.
     
  9. Denny Crane

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    You would have to pull the trigger on this trade. Small for big, and old for young.
     
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    I would certainly consider this deal but I would be more inclined to use Joel or Camby then Miller since losing Miller leave Portland without a dependable point guard.

    Honestly, I think Orlando would shit themselves if we offered Camby for Gortat. The could move Rashard to the bench and have the best shot-blocking front court in the league.

    Camby is an excellent passer out of the high post.
    Orlando would fucking stupid to not take that deal.

    As for Portland, they get a younger center who wants minutes he will never get in Orlando.

    I actually did a similar deal via the trade machine where I dealt Camby, Rudy and Batum to Orlando for Gortat, Pietrus and Ryan Anderson.
    According to the ESPN trade machine that trade was worth -10 games for Orlando.


    As far as getting back Jameer Nelson, if that's the best they can do I guess it would be ok.
    Not a real thriller though.
     
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    It really does just keep getting better, doesn't it?
     
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    I don't think it is keeping Roy happy, as much as it is that Roy is virtually untradeable right now.....Miller, whom I would prefer to keep is getting up there in age and I doubt POR would resign him, or that he would even want to come back here.....

    Getting Gortat for Miller is not a bad deal, Gortat is a young big man who wants to start...and allows POR to move Camby &\or Przybilla for more "future" pieces....

    Moving these guys is the right move to make....
     
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    That would be a fantastic move for the Blazers. Andre Miller was supposed to be a stop-gap measure. This season is likely lost anyway. You get a quality, young big for an aging PG that will take you nowhere, you make the trade of Camby or Joel much easier to stomach, and you find out if Roy really has anything left with more spacing or not, and if not - you just play the young guys at PG, try to make Batum that point-forward you hope he will be one day - and get a high-pick for the future.

    In my best Starsky and Hutch voice I would go with "Do it", "Do it".
     
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    I think you do that if you have a deal in place for Camby or Joel for a PG. I like Miller, appreciate what he has done for us. If we're not winning a title this season, and are going to struggle, finding young pieces for our older guys and expirings makes sense. I don't know if we'd find a better deal for Miller than a potential starting C.
     
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    Eh, I wouldn't dislike it, but it leaves a big problem at PG, with no guarantee of a high draft pick. Perhaps then trade Przy for a PG on sombody's bench? I just don't like the idea of Patty Mills and Armon Johnson being your PGs at the end of the season.

    If Bayless was still around, then I'd be more excited to get a soon-to-be 27 year-old center who has seen his PER regress since his first two years to its current 14.1.
     
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    If we trade Miller, it means that we're bailing on this season.

    Joel and Camby could both be moved to the high bidder and Portland could bring Telfair back for cheap for the rest of the year.

    Ed O.
     
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    Bigs usually reach their prime around 30, Gortat was signed by Orlando as an RFA against his wish - he wanted to go away from being D12's backup. I am willing to bet he does not go out of his way to play great for Orlando.

    The PG situation does not bother me too much, honestly, there are tons of acceptable PGs you can find around the league - and worst case scenario - you find it does not work and do not waste another year on being close to the playoffs or high lottery because Miller is good enough to get you there, and instead, tank properly to start the rebuild hoping that Oden might someday be able to play and contribute.

    The Bayless ship has sailed. The Miller ship as a final piece has sailed as well. It's time to look forward, and this trade gives you something to build on.
     
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    At first I thought this was a horrible idea but if it comes with a draft pick as well it wouldn't be so bad as well as it could open the opportunity to trade pryz and camby for scoring and or a pg. I've kinda already thrown put this season to get anything past 7-8th seed and that's becoming less likely by the day. I wouldn't trade miller though unless we have a back up trade in place for a good pg or a draft pick that's high that could get us a good pg. Next year.
     
  19. MIXUM

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    ed.... bail on season?

    this season has gone from 2nd round to top 5 pick with roy being out/done.

    you think theres hope of playoffs? without roy???
     
  20. Ed O

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    Yes, I think there's hope for the playoffs, with or without Roy. HCA? No. An 8th seed? Possibly.

    I'm not saying that we should NOT bail on the season. I would probably prefer, this year, a top 5 pick to an 8th seed. If we can move veterans and get more pieces for the future along with that top 5 pick, even better.

    Gortat is a piece for the future, IMO, and that's why I think this trade could be a good one for Portland.

    Ed O.
     

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