OT: How Bout That Bayless guy?

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Out of the entire Toronto roster, the only player I'd really like to get if they had a firesale is Bayless. I'd offer a first round pick, but I don't think Toronto would trade one of their best young players for just a first round pick. Good young guards like Collison and Bayless aren't that cheap.
     
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    Bargnani? Amir Johnson? Ed Davis? Kleiza?

    I can think of several players on that team I'd take over Bayless.
     
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    Amir Johnson is the closest. He's better than Bayless now, but I think Bayless has a higher ceiling. Bargnani is finally better than Bayless this year and is 3 years older. Ed Davis doesn't really impress me...he's a year younger than Bayless but isn't doing much. Kleiza has never been particularly good...his best season was on par with Bayless as a 21 year old, in terms of production.
     
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    Let it go people.....

    That ship has sailed....
     
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    Johnson, Bargnani, DeRozan, Calderon, Barbosa and maybe even Kleiza all have more value on the market than Bayless IMO. Undersized guards that aren't a PG, yet not a SG and don't have an outside shot and can't run an offense aren't really that coveted in the league.

    Ed Davis as a prospect with his size and length is most definitely a more coveted prospect.
     
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    Toronto's coach seems to be pretty inconsistent... playing Weems ahead of Kleiza and/or barely playing Davis makes little sense to me, given their shitty record and poor prospects for this season.

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    WTF is up with Bayless? They started giving him big minutes and he put up a couple nice games. Now he's back to the minutes he was getting in Portland and not producing.

    Could it be that since Bayless started playing big minutes at the point the team started a losing streak?
     
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    NO drops two in a rwo to Detroit and Indy . . . pick number 19 and climbing.

    When Blazers jump NO Blazers will more solidify a playoff spot and improve their draft position at the same time.
     
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    19 and DROPPING right?
     
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    Dropping makes more sense huh . . . but you get the idea.
     
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    NO has only faltered because they traded Bayless. ;)
     
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    But he had such a sunny disposition

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    Maybe. Or maybe the coach doesn't know what he's doing.

    Do we have evidence that the coach knows what he's doing?

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    Yeah, he realizes that Calderon is a better PG than Bayless.
     
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    Bayless seems like an arrogant bastard. He's too confident for his own good.
     
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    He's not though...... just driven! The guy is ALL business.
     
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    Enough, who gives a fuck about Bayless now? Really.

    We now know what a mildly talented undersized two guard can do if driven to be the best, achieve mediocrity. Good for him.
     
    bodyman5001, Dec 21, 2010
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    The Sacramento Kings started last season playing their guards almost equally--Sergio, rookie Tyreke Evans, Beno Udrih, and Kevin Martin. This made them and up and coming team, with a record of 13-14 or .481. Then management decided to make Evans Rookie of the Year over Jennings. So Westphal installed an isolation system for Evans to play like Roy. This decreased Sergio's minutes.

    The wins stopped. The Kings stopped being an up and coming team when they decreased Sergio's role. 2 months later they traded Sergio. Here is yesterday's TrueHoop article on this matter.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/22972/the-kings-of-hyperbole
     
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