Wallace Diop and Augustine for Miller/Camby

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  1. MIXUM

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    Amick: Charlotte's Gerald Wallace, DeSagana Diop & DJ Augustin For Andre Miller & Marcus Camby?
    Moments after I hit "publish" on the last post regarding potential trade talks between the Portland Trail Blazers and Charlotte Bobcats, Sam Amick of NBA Fanhouse reports...
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    League sources told FanHouse that the Bobcats and Portland have discussed a trade that would send beloved small forward Gerald Wallace to the Blazers with center DeSagana Diop and point guard D.J. Augustin in exchange for center Marcus Camby and point guard Andre Miller. And while the Blazers are exploring a litany of their own options and don't appear eager to do the deal as of now, the discussion that is one of many being had by the Bobcats reveals plenty about the sort of the on-court changes Jordan has in mind for his club.

    He wants a point guard not named D.J. Augustin who comes with a veteran's resume and a veteran big man who produces on both ends of the floor. But it's the final prerequisite that is by far the most problematic for most scenarios being considered, as he wants to significantly cut future salary just in time for the new landscape that will come with a new collective bargaining agreement.
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    Virtually impossible to imagine that deal going through as constructed, but Charlotte is clearly looking to be aggressive and Portland has parts that would be appealing to them.
     
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    Dillman: Blazers, Bobcats Might Be Trading Partners?

    Early Thursday, Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports reported that the Charlotte Bobcats and Los Angeles Clippers might be linking up for a trade.
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    [Charlotte Bobcats Owner Michael] Jordan is considering a trade proposal that would send [D.J.] Augustin, DeSagana Diop and Matt Carroll to the Los Angeles Clippers for [Baron] Davis, a league source told Yahoo! Sports.
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    Lisa Dillman, Los Angeles Clippers beat writer for the Los Angeles Times reports on Twitter that "BD won't be spending Xmas in Charlotte" and that she is "hearing that Portland (Andre Miller, Marcus Camby) might be trading partner with Charlotte on this one, not Clippers."

    The Bobcats recently put both of their co-captains, Gerald Wallace and Stephen Jackson, on the block.

    -- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter
     
  3. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    If we are building for the future.. not sure Wallace is that person with his age. IMO
     
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    we arent building for future. we are re-tooling. this trade if oden comes back would be huge without giving up batum

    augustine/rudy?
    roy/wes
    wallace/batum
    la/diop
    pyrz/marks with maybe oden
     
  5. chris_in_pdx

    chris_in_pdx OLD MAN

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    Wallace is a player that I've coveted for the Blazers for years. Screw the future, I want to WIN.
     
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    I am onboard for this one.
     
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    these are exactly the type of trades the mavs do to retool.

    this trade gets us in the playoffs. maybe they should offer rudy/camby for wallace/augustine/diop instead.
     
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    You are always building for the future. The question is, is the future all you have to look forward to?

    Getting Wallace for 2 old players whose deals are going to expire soon is a no brainer.
     
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    yes this deal should already been done if true.

    wallace and la would be amazing
     
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    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

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    Didn't the team want Augustin as well? I know he's been pretty terrible as a pro so far, so maybe a change of scenery would help him. Also, hell yes to G Force, even though he would be injured almost immediately.
     
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    The idea of Crash would be awesome, but seeing Miller AND Camb go in one shot would be hard as they are our two biggest trade pieces, I wonder if we could swing Miller and Pryz instead.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Part of me really likes this deal ... then the other part remembers just how often "Crash" has been out with injuries. If we didn't already have the most fragile roster in the league this would guarantee it.

    That said, I'd do it if that was the absolute best deal I could get but I'd wait for something more lucrative to surface or try to bring a third team in.
     
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    and doesn't answer our need at PG.
     
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    Augustin is a PG. Currently putting up 13 and 6 and 3 in Charlotte. Not awesome numbers, but not terrible either, for a 23 year old PG. What I like about the deal is it adds a young PG in Augustin you can try to develop, and I like Wallace, he can contribute, but is another long term asset as well. Him and Diop only have two years left after this year, so they're not horribly long contracts.
     
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    We don't lose bigs on this one either. Wallace can play SF/PF. Diop can play PF/C. We actually gain depth on this one.

    PG: Augustin / Mills / Johnson / Rudy
    SG: Roy / Wesley / Rudy / Elliot
    SF: Wallace / Batum / Wesley
    PF: LMA / Cunningham / Diop / Wallace
    C: Joel / Diop / Marks / Oden
     
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    If Augustin ends up as our PG, we aren't retooling; we've been tooled.

    If Cho has a second move to get a PG, then maybe this makes sense.
     
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    I think Diop is probably worse than Marks.
     
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    Diop has kind of a nasty contract for his production. 3 years left(3rd year is a PO) at $6.5M/$7.0M/$7.4M

    Who the hell signed him to that?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Diop and Marks are about equally worthless ... though I'm not sure how you quantify that given that about all Diop can do is defend and rebound while about all Marks can do is shoot a mid-range jumper. If given the choice in a backup 5 I guess I'd rather have the guy who can provide resistance and clean the glass.
     
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    Why all the DJ Augustin hate? He's young, he's not that bad now, and a change of scenery for him could kick-start him into reaching his potential.
     

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