If you could go back, who would you have taken in a given draft instead of a bust or a player that didnt work out?
Andre Iguodala over Rafael Araujo in the 2004 draft. I know i know, Hoffa looked pretty good in college and the Raps needed a big man but the main problem was probably the lack of scouting. The Raps' GM was also Rob Babcock at the time...
I would have taken Gilbert Arenas or Tony Parker over Kedrick Brown in 2001, LMAO, as well as KEEP Chauncey Billups and Joe Johnson. I also would have taken Jamal Magloire over Jerome Moiso in the 2000 draft. Josh Howard over Marcus Banks in 03 (only because Banks didn't work out here. I love him though). Other than that I love what Ainge has done for us in the draft. Old management sucked and couldn't evaluate good talent to save their lives.
First that comes to mind is 1997 when the Sixers chose Keith Van Horn who didnt work out for us when their was guys still available like c-bill and tmac.Also there's the 1998 draft where we took larry hughes w/ Dirk and Paul Pierce left!!! Could you imagine SAI and Dirk together??? That would've been awesome.Last ones is 1995 another huge mistake by the sixers where they took stackhouse over KG and Sheed. LOL this has really shown me the Sixers aren't the best at drafting. w/e though atleast they got it right in 96 :rock:
I've watched a decent amount of Celtics games, and I dont know if im the only one who thinks it, but I dont think their teams young talent really stands out. Not taking favorites but compared to the bulls who could have an allstar at almost every position soon.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jun 10 2006, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would have taken Gilbert Arenas or Tony Parker over Kedrick Brown in 2001, LMAO, as well as KEEP Chauncey Billups and Joe Johnson.</div>Are we going by what we know now, or are we going by what we knew back then? If we pick teams according to what we know now, it's easy to pick, we know the players turned out like. For example, it's easy to say now, Kobe Bryant being picked number 13 was a bonehead move by 11 GM's, but at the time it didn't seem like a bonehead move. The only high school players ever taken before that was big men, and there was questions as to how a swing man right of high school would do in the NBA.Same with not selecting Gilbert Arenas, he wasn't selected until the second round of the draft, so it appears that there were alot of dumb GM's in hindsight. At the time however, there had to be a reason why he wasn't selected in the first round by every other GM. So its hard to really say right now what teams should have done back then.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 10 2006, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've watched a decent amount of Celtics games, and I dont know if im the only one who thinks it, but I dont think their teams young talent really stands out. Not taking favorites but compared to the bulls who could have an allstar at almost every position soon.</div>I think we have good young talent, but the thing is, most of it is bascially potential. I mean the only "sure thing" we have for young guys right now is Delonte and probably Gomes. Tony Allen could be, but will his off-court issues catch up to him? Will he ever get a jumpshot?Green - I think he is going to be a scorer if anything, but defense? He has all the athleticism, tools, and potential to be a star in this league. But nobody knows yet.Big Al - Can already score in the post, but again, defense? Passing? Intangibles?Perk - Good defender and a hard worker, but will he ever be able to get at least ONE money-move in the post?I mean it goes on and on. I hated making this post, but it's just facts and realism. These kids could come together and start winning, or they could very well turn out to be busts as well. But I think for guys like Gerald and Al - it's ALL about just working hard, because they have all the tools/potential. But what I LOVE about Gerald is that he's determined, and the coaching staff religiously have praised his work ethic. So I love that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Last ones is 1995 another huge mistake by the sixers where they took stackhouse over KG and Sheed.</div>Not really a huge mistake, cause at the time KG was a unproven kid out of high school and Stack was a superstar at UNC. Plus, Stack turned out to be one of the best scorers in the league
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Spree @ Jun 10 2006, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not really a huge mistake, cause at the time KG was a unproven kid out of high school and Stack was a superstar at UNC. Plus, Stack turned out to be one of the best scorers in the league</div>Yeah but KG is obviously way better. I know we wouldnt know hed be liek this but the thread is who are players that your team passed up that you really wish they would've took now. KG would fit uder that category imo.
In 2001, we had the No. 1 pick with Kwame Brown. Hell, I thought it was a good pick back then, since Brown had a great body and athleticsm at PF/C. The only problem was that he didnt go to college, coming fresh, straight outta HS. The college experience would have benefited Kwame greatly, he would have become more adapted to playing on a level where the competetion is greater than HS ball. Now I'm very pissed because we could have gotten Pau Gasol...
I just wish that Cleveland would have lost 2-3 more games in that 84 season, we could have had Jordan....Karl Malone, John Stockton, Charles Barkley, Joe Dumars, Tim Hardaway, etc....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jun 10 2006, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would have taken Gilbert Arenas or Tony Parker over Kedrick Brown in 2001, LMAO, as well as KEEP Chauncey Billups and Joe Johnson. I also would have taken Jamal Magloire over Jerome Moiso in the 2000 draft. Josh Howard over Marcus Banks in 03 (only because Banks didn't work out here. I love him though). Other than that I love what Ainge has done for us in the draft. Old management sucked and couldn't evaluate good talent to save their lives.</div>Read my mind! And it makes it SOOO much worse that we promised Arenas we'd pick him with the #10 or 11. F*ck you pitino!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jun 10 2006, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Read my mind! And it makes it SOOO much worse that we promised Arenas we'd pick him with the #10 or 11. F*ck you pitino!</div>Exactly! That's why Arenas elevates his game and sort of takes it personal when we come to town. I mean you can't promise someone a draft position, and then blow him off for a JUNIOR COLLEGE star (Kedrick Brown). That's cold, and it came back to haunt us. Kedrick is what? 25-26 now? He's not even in the league anymore, he didn't work hard and he got fat.But then again, does it really matter? With the way our management was back then, they would have picked at his flaws and trade him in a year or less, just like we did to Chauncey and Joe Johnson.
Just remember, Cleveland fans can say they should have picked Amare over Dajuan but if they did pick Amare they wouldn't have had enough loses to get LeBron the next year...just making sure I bring that up. Probably Tayshaun Prince instead of Haislip in 2002 and Ryan Gomes instead of Ilyasova in 2005.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jun 10 2006, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah but KG is obviously way better. I know we wouldnt know hed be liek this but the thread is who are players that your team passed up that you really wish they would've took now. KG would fit uder that category imo.</div>The way put it before made it sound like Stack was Sam Bowie and KG was Jordan. Of course now KG looks like the better pick, it's not like Stackhouse is a complete failure. Also, I don't think the AI-KG duo would've worked
There was that one pick in 2003 where we got some foreign bust, when we could have gotten the following:Carmelo AnthonyChris BoshDwyane WadeChris KamanKirk HinrichTJ FordMicheal SweetneyJarvis HayesMikeal PietriusNick CollisonMarcus BanksLuke RidnourDavid WestBoris DiawTravis Outlaw<u>Leandro BarbosaJosh HowardLuke WaltonWillie GreenMo WilliamsKyle Korver</u>Underlined- We could have gotten with the Carlos Delfino pick....Instead of drafting Darko, we could have had Chris Bosh, and instead of Delfino, we could have had Josh Howard!Just one bad draft.....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Jun 11 2006, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There was that one pick in 2003 where we got some foreign bust, when we could have gotten the following:Carmelo AnthonyChris BoshDwyane WadeChris KamanKirk HinrichTJ FordMicheal SweetneyJarvis HayesMikeal PietriusNick CollisonMarcus BanksLuke RidnourDavid WestBoris DiawTravis Outlaw<u>Leandro BarbosaJosh HowardLuke WaltonWillie GreenMo WilliamsKyle Korver</u>Underlined- We could have gotten with the Carlos Delfino pick....Instead of drafting Darko, we could have had Chris Bosh, and instead of Delfino, we could have had Josh Howard!Just one bad draft.....</div>Yea that draft kills me to think what we could of gotten. People say that even if we did get a premier player like Bosh, Melo or Wade. Then they would of sat on the bench like Darko and have done exactly what Darko did....nothing. But, I don't believe that.
