How was posting current production intellectually dishonest? You're the person reading things into me posting PERs. Plus, the poster I was replying to a poster who wanted Butler because of his expiring contract, so any future performance comparison is seemingly not worth discussing, at least in that conversation. That you then went off on a tangent to try and insult me is a "you" problem, Ed.
I'm not attacking you in the least. I'm curious about the point you were making. You posted their past stats in the conversation related to contract lengths? I find that hard to believe. Ed O.
I posted it to show that a hobbled Roy is a more productive player than a "healthy" Butler. Since the contract is expiring, future production won't matter. Unless you don't care about production at all, posting recent performance statistics seemed fair in evaluating any trade between the two players. I guess I'm not understanding your point. My point seems rather straightforward, at least in my mind. You keep interjecting your thoughts and beliefs into the conversation, and while I appreciate you putting so much thought into my factual post, I don't really see why. Hobbled Roy has a higher PER than healthy Butler. I actual thought it was a rather simple fact, and not easily misunderstood.
But why is that relevant? Neither team would be paying for past production. Normally stats are used because they are forward-facing. If you're not using them in that way, I remain confused by why you used them at all. But whatevs. Ed O.
I've seen you post PER many times in evaluating a player's performance, or even on occasion when discussing future trades. Forward-facing stats? I suppose it can be said that past performance tends to predict future behavior, but in this instance, both players involved are playing at a sub-average level, at least in terms of the expectations one would expect from their past results. As far as I know, Roy is not out for the season, so it would make sense (to me, at least) to compare what each player has given in on-court performance, and to use the most recent data set as one point of comparison. If future performance could be accurately predicted, then half of us would talking about how awesome Kevin Durant is playing for the Blazers, and the other half would be bemoaning his lack of defense and finding ways to try and trade him for a Memphis Grizzly.
So, since Butler is done for the year with an Achilles injury/surgery, which stats should I post to try and explain his future performance on the court?