The Young Players Compared To The players of Today

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  1. TheAnalyst

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    What young players do you guys think will be like later in their careers.Chris Bosh-The Next Kevin GarnettDwight Howard-The Next Tim DuncanAndrea Bargnani-The Next Dirk NowitzkiGerald Green-The Next Tracy McGradyDelonte West-The Next Gary Payton?
     
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    Well, the Bosh/KG comparisons have been there from the beginning and they are somewhat similar except for the passing that CB4 will never have. But they are both 6'10''-6'11'' and are slim, but strong at the same time. Both are good rebounders (KG is better though, no doubt, and I don't know if Bosh will ever be as good a rebounder, but still a good one). Both can play inside or hit an open 12-15 footer.Howard will never, ever be as good an offensive player as Duncan, or passer. I don't think anyone in the league today will be anything like Duncan. Not at all.Green to T-Mac - has been there from the beginning, and they are pretty much on target. Watch McGrady highlights from Toronto, and watch Gerald highlight of today, they are extremely similar, except Gerald Green's vertical is probably higher than T-Mac's, believe it or not. But they both are extremely athletic, both have basically the same moves with the ball, both have a smooth jumper that extends out to 3-pt range, and both are 6'8'' wings.Delonte is nothing like Payton though. Payton in his prime - best guard defender in the NBA, great playmaker, in control at all times with the ball, good post player, average shooter. Delonte is a combo guard, natural 2-guard, who is an ok passer but not a playmaker, a hustler, and a smooth shooter. Very very different.EDIT: Forgot Bargnani/Dirk comparison:I doubt anyone here has seen him play more than 1-2 games with a highlight reel. And he hasn't even been drafted yet, let alone lead a team to the Finals and showcase any talent in the NBA.
     
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    Homer pickBynum- The next Shaq
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo_061 @ Jun 13 2006, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Homer pickBynum- The next Shaq</div>I know even you said it was a homer pick, but all I can do to this post is laugh and shake my head.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheAnalyst @ Jun 12 2006, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What young players do you guys think will be like later in their careers.Chris Bosh-The Next Kevin GarnettDwight Howard-The Next Tim DuncanAndrea Bargnani-The Next Dirk NowitzkiGerald Green-The Next Tracy McGradyDelonte West-The Next Gary Payton?</div>Dwight Howard is way more athletic then Duncan. Howard will have a better career.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBigO @ Jun 13 2006, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dwight Howard is way more athletic then Duncan. Howard will have a better career.</div>Dwight Howard may have the better career statistically speaking, but it will be hard for him to win three championship rings. He'll need a little help from Orlando's front office in order to do that, but he definitely is capable of it.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBigO @ Jun 13 2006, 01:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dwight Howard is way more athletic then Duncan. Howard will have a better career.</div>I beg to differ. No way in hell Howard will ever have the complete game as well as feel for the game that Duncan has. He will never have to offensive production, leadership, and passing skills as Duncan. So he is more athletic, makes more highlight reels, and grabs more boards. He is no Duncan. Seeing a post like this makes me think you are taking Duncan's greatness for granted.Stromile Swift is way more athletic than Duncan too. Is he having a better career?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo_061 @ Jun 12 2006, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Homer pickBynum- The next Shaq</div> :worthy:
     
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    Bosh and KG comparisons have been mentioned ever since Bosh came into the league. Both skinny players, offensive-minded, good rebounders, and can provide a presence in the paint. The only thing is that KG will always be a better passer than Bosh, but that can change, since Bosh is very young right now.Howard is not the next Tim Duncan. Nobody will ever be as fundamental as Tim Duncan, especially in the future, where kids that can be in the NBA are learning from the ankle-breaking moves of AI and the flashy passes from Steve Nash. I see a lot of Shawn Kemp in Dwight Howard, without the drug issues. I agree with Bargnani being the next Nowitzki. Everybody would say Green is the next TMac because of their similar style of play, and that Green has the same exact body and was just as skinny as Mac when he entered the league. West is good right now, but I dont think he'll ever be good as Gary Payton. West is regarded as a solid defensive player, gives 100% on D, but I dont think West will become a great defender like Gary was with the Sonics. I dont really think that West will average 20 ppg in his career, maybe 17 ppg at best. Maybe a poor man's Kevin Johnson?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Nobody will ever be as fundamental as Tim Duncan, especially in the future, where kids that can be in the NBA are learning from the ankle-breaking moves of AI and the flashy passes from Steve Nash.</div>I think that is entirely true. I think you might even say Duncan is the last of the "old guard". Not to say that Nash and Iverson's games are bad, but quite simply, it's not the pure game played by the greats. People say that Duncan lowers TV ratings, and he's boring, but I think his game is absolutely beautiful. His post game is the envy of every center, ever, Hakeem, Chamberlain, (especially) Shaq, and the whole lot.
     
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    How is Dwight Howard comparable to Tim Duncan. Duncan is an extremely fundamentally sound finnesse player who doesnt use much athletic ability. Howard is an athletic freak who uses his big body to bang in the post, he has an okay midrange game, but nowhere neary Timmy's.
     
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    Well I was really just thinkg about there rebounding abilities.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Jun 13 2006, 07:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>West is good right now, but I dont think he'll ever be good as Gary Payton. West is regarded as a solid defensive player, gives 100% on D, but I dont think West will become a great defender like Gary was with the Sonics. I dont really think that West will average 20 ppg in his career, maybe 17 ppg at best. Maybe a poor man's Kevin Johnson?</div>No dice there either lol. West doesn't play like anyone else, he plays like Delonte West. He hustles, is scrappy, good team defender, smooth shooter, and can make the occasional super pass. But he isn't like Payton by any means because the style is completely different, he is not a good 1-on-1 defender while GP was the best in the NBA, and Delonte will never even be talked about within 600 yards of the Hall of Fame lol. And he is not like Kevin Johnson because he KJ wasn't a great spot up shooter like Delonte, and Delonte isn't a guy to raise up and dunk on a 7 footer like KJ. No comparison because Delonte kind of has his own style.But all in all, let these kids be themselves. We get so caught up in the comparisons of great players rather than letting these kids develope themselves. LeBron is not MJ and he is not Magic. Howard is not Duncan or Robinson. Gay is not Pippen. Morrison is NOT Bird! etc. etc. Let them be themselves and develope there own game, rather than get too caught up in "Jordan was only a sophomore in college at this age, while LeBron is an MVP candidate" etc. Cut that crap out and give these guys time and let them play like themselves, not NBA greats (that 90% of them ever live up to there comparisons anyway, because everyone compares them to HOF players).
     
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    Before last years draft, I think people compared Marvin Williams to Kevin Garnett. IDK how that has gone so far but who knows.I think that Dwight Howard is more of an Amare Stoudemire than a Tim Duncan. He is a fast, flexible, beast of a man. He is probably the second strongest player in the league next to Shaq. I think he will improve offensively as his career goes on.I think another comparison is Kirk Hienrich to Steve Nash. I think Kirk has the willingness to pass that Nash has, and the players around him to give the ball to. Kirk is also a great shooter like Nash, and can take a game over with his passing or shooting, which is a valuble skill.
     
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    Dajuan Wagner was compared to Allen Iverson, his career went down the drain soon after. It's not hard to compare the players to other players, but predicting if they will have a better career is near improbable.Could Andrea Baragini be the next Dirk, or will he be Darko?Will there be another Trajan Langdon in this years draft? Any Mateen Cleaves or Christian Laetteners?
     
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    Andrea Bargnani is not even in the nba yet so i wouldnt be comparing him to anyone so suddenly.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Andrea Bargnani is not even in the nba yet so i wouldnt be comparing him to anyone so suddenly.</div>It's inevitable. Shaq to Yao, LeBron to Jordan, and now Bargnani to Dirk. It's going to happen. That's part of the fun of the draft.
     
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    a better comparison to dwight howard would probably be amare stoudemire. they're both freakishly athletic and they love to stuff that ball in the rim.hmm another one for you guys.. ADAM MORRISON - LARRY BIRD? [​IMG]
     
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    Never. Morrison will never come close.
     
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    Morrison won't be as good as Larry Bird, but he plays like him. It's just a comparison.A better comparison for Morrison is Glen Robinson though.
     

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