Duncan is the best out of position at center or not. I would take Duncan at center over anyone else at center but Yao is the best pure center.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hoopskidd5 @ Jun 13 2006, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Did you read what I just said? I said he plays center for Phoenix out of position but I wouldnt consider him to be one..If he were he would be better than Yao, however, in my opinion..</div>Did I have to read what you said?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (YugoRocketsFan @ Jun 13 2006, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Actually it was in the playoffs when Rockets were playing Mavs.</div>If you would have watched the game the other day, you would have realized that Shaq wasn't playing just Dampier down low. Shaq was playing two, sometimes three guys down low. Yao Ming has never had the type of double team Shaq had yesterday, where someone was standing in front of him before he even got the ball. Shaq was being double teamed without the ball, one person between him and the basket, one person between Shaq and the one with the ball. The way Yao got played by the Mavericks on defense, and the way Shaq got played by the Mavericks are completely different like BCB said.Even earlier in Shaq's career, he was never double teamed like he was in game 2. With the Lakers, they had decent outside shooters so no one could double team him before he even got the ball. With the Magic, he had people that could hit the open shot, so they could not double team Shaq before he even had the ball in his hands.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Jun 14 2006, 01:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Duncan is the best out of position at center or not. I would take Duncan at center over anyone else at center but Yao is the best pure center.</div> Huh? Duncan's never played center, why are you bringing him up?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jun 13 2006, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Huh? Duncan's never played center, why are you bringing him up?</div>He plays it sometimes.
Yao isn't the best centerin the game. I just don't think he is at the level to be the best center. And, you guys are bringing all of SHaq's bad games into this. Look at some of his better games also. Twice as good as Dampier will ever have. Also some of this is because Shaq is letting Wade lead the team due to Shaq being doubled all the time and Wade is so quick and strong he can take it to the hoop.
Shaq has been double and triple teamed his whole career and has had huge games with Kobe Bryant, I don't see why it matters now. He's just too streaky and doesn't set a good example by playing half ass. Nice to see Bandwagoner3 pretend to know a lot about Shaq.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jun 13 2006, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Shaq has been double and triple teamed his whole career and has had huge games with Kobe Bryant, I don't see why it matters now. He's just too streaky and doesn't set a good example by playing half ass. Nice to see Bandwagoner3 pretend to know a lot about Shaq. </div>agreed.anyway. yao probably is actually the best center in the NBA nowadays. shaq is getting old and he's not getting younger anytime soon. of course he had his days but today: yao > shaq.yao faces double/triple teams all the time so why do you guys throw that in there? yao is beginning to utilize his height finally and it's showing in his stats. shaq isn't the big bear he once was but he still owns people now and again.shaq is good still. but yao is better now.
I'd also throw out that the Rockets were under .500 without Yao. Shaq and Yao are equal passers. The reason Yao doesn't get a lot of assists is because he doesn't get any cutters. I don't know why, but cutters in Van Gundy's offense are almost non-existent. Not to mention, Yao's supporting cast was much, much worse than Shaq's. Look at my above post. Shaq has almost no post game, the only way he gets the ball is if he out-muscles guy out of the paint. He can no longer do that offensively. Get him the ball ten feet from the basket, and he's lost. Get Yao the ball, it's an easy fadeaway, or a baseline spin move. Dude, I was NOT saying that Dampier was better. I was merely making a point -- that Shaq can be contained. Note that besides his "amazing" 16 points he also had 7 turnovers. 7, with a guy who supposedly gets not a lot of touches. Err, wrong. Quite, quite wrong. All through the season I was saying that this was how the teams were playing Yao -- a guy in front and a guy in back (I could show it to you if you really want it). This is exactly what Yao has faced. And Shaq had, what, 5 points? 2 field goals? Yaaa....right.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Yozo @ Jun 14 2006, 05:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Err, wrong. Quite, quite wrong. All through the season I was saying that this was how the teams were playing Yao -- a guy in front and a guy in back (I could show it to you if you really want it). This is exactly what Yao has faced. And Shaq had, what, 5 points? 2 field goals? Yaaa....right.</div>Yao's double teams always came to him after he got the ball, that is the main point of what i said there. They always waited for Yao Ming to get the ball, and then close in around him. In game two, Shaq was double teamed before the ball could even get in to him. If they tried to get the ball inside to him, the person in front of Shaq would just pick it off and go the other way.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Yao's double teams always came to him after he got the ball, that is the main point of what i said there. They always waited for Yao Ming to get the ball, and then close in around him. In game two, Shaq was double teamed before the ball could even get in to him. If they tried to get the ball inside to him, the person in front of Shaq would just pick it off and go the other way.</div>No. I forget the link, but I do remember some articles in the Houston Chronicle where Yao talked about how the defenders would swarm him before he got the ball.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Yozo @ Jun 14 2006, 05:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'd also throw out that the Rockets were under .500 without Yao.</div>I'm guessing they were well over .500 with him, by the way you worded this post.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I'm guessing they were well over .500 with him, by the way you worded this post.</div>.500, actually.
