Bye, bye, Andre Miller

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  1. oldguy

    oldguy Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty sure that one of his positions is that the Blazers should waive Dre.

    I'm still hoping he'll tell me if he thinks the team will be better with AJ and PM at the point, after Dre is waived. Hell, for that matter if he thinks the team would be better with Blake at PG, after Dre is waived.

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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Speaking of Patty Mills.... :)

    Great thread. Awesome stuff.

    But, speaking of Patty Mills, I don't believe I have ever seen a worse defender. He looks like a little kid out there, or worse yet, me, trying to guard NBA players. Patty is fun to watch on offense, but Patty makes Sergio Rodriguez look like an All NBA defensive team member.

    Carry on. :)
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    There have been times over the last two seasons when Andre Miller was the best player on the floor for us. He is adept at picking his spots to score, when others aren't getting the job done. Yes, he does look a little disinterested at the moment -- understandable since every basketball player and fan on earth who is paying attention knows he's going to be traded. And yet, consummate professional that he is, he is still playing darn good basketball. The guy is the best PG we've had since Rod Strickland for crying out loud. I do hope, however, that this year or next we can upgrade the position for a player who can take us into the future. Nothing personal, Dre.
     
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    Chauncey Billups
    Steve Nash
    Tony Parker
    Chris Paul
    Russell Westbrook
    Jason Kidd
    Deron Williams
    Aaron Brooks
    Kyle Lowry
    Luke Ridnour

    That's 10 in the West that I'd prefer over Miller, although Rid may be a stretch. Shall I move to the East?
     
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    The points I made haven't been "shot down" with anything other than a differing opinion.
     
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    Didn't Webster miss most of the 54-win season? I think the roster that was blasted by many posters at that time needs to be taken into account as well.
     
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    Well, I said he shouldn't be re-upped if he can't be traded, but I did also say that maybe the OP was correct, as well.

    I'd lean more toward the former, though.
     
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    If I was your wife I'd never want to be around you either.:lol:
     
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    Keep dreaming, Studly. :)
     
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    He doesn't play good defense, he controlls the ball too much on offense and hurts our flow. I wouldn't give Patty 35 minutes but I would give Patty and Armon 40+ if not an entire game and feel better than when Miller is playing.
    This is not my team more than it is your team but I - personaly - don't want us to play Andre Miller anymore. I also don't see any glaring weakness or need that has to be filled. As far as I'm concerned we should waive him or trade him for cap-space. The kings have cap-space and could use a Point-Guard. We don't need him and what he brings but he could be an important player for a team like the Kings. Him playing for the Blazers is a waste of time for him and the Blazers and a waste of Paul Allen's money.
     
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    BlayZa Misbehaving responsibly

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    OK,
    Brandon is that you?
    I did lolz at the 'waste of Paul Allen's money' part :P
     
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    Miller's a mixed bag. He's always put up nice numbers on not so great teams. He's never been THE MAN on any team. He's old, so there's not much future for him to build around.

    You'd be worse without him for lack of anyone decent to replace him with.
     
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    Brandon Roy is a very good example. He was a much better player than Miller but him having alpha-dog status and him needing the ball in his hands too much made us predictable and guardable.
    LMA should pass more and I see beautiful things happen every time he passes out of the double team but him getting many touches inside is not a bad thing. Miller playing over Armon Johnson and even over more minutes for Patty Mills is not a good coaching/management decision.
     
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    We had the 2nd and 7th best offense in terms of efficiency in the NBA the last couple of years. I would stray away from using Brandon as the scapegoat. Sure, fans didn't like watching that brand of basketball because it wasn't GO GO GO GO GO..RUN RUN RUN. It wasn't entertaining to them, however whether you like it or not, it was efficient. Plain and Simple.
     
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    BRILLIANT!

    So, which of you two geniuses want to explain how waiving Dre would have been superior to using him to acquire a younger starting PG?

    Never mind that the Blazers absolutely would NOT have made the playoffs without Dre last season.

    Please enlighten us.

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    Speaking of brilliant, you forgot to bold the second half of that sentence.

    "if no good trades are available."

    I like the Felton trade, so I prefer that over not picking up 'Dre's option. What is it you were trying to prove? If no good trades were available, I may have preferred to not pick up Miller's option. That's a moot point now. He's traded, and he's Denver's player now.
     
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    You were saying to waive him a month before the trade deadline. Odd you've never disputed that you advocated for waiving him when we've discussed it before.

    If you wanted the team to waive him, at what point in the season did you want them to do that?

    Go Blazers

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    I said I'd consider it, and would support it. That said, clearly it wasn't a definitive position.

    Again, what's your point by bumping this thread?
     

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