The "New and Improved" Offense without Roy

Oh really? I certainly remember many posters last year saying that the Royless Blazers were a better team.

 

My good friend BGrantFan posted the statistics earlier in the season with Roy. I invite you to look them up, and compare them to the recent statistics.

 

You'll have to show me a post about that, because I've never seen anyone say the team is better without Roy until this year, when Roy is clearly no longer a high-level NBA player.

 

It's not new or improved, it's the same 'ol slow-it-up-ISO-ball.

 

Last year. Game One. Phoenix series. Plenty of talk on multiple boards how the team was better w/out Roy. I've seen it as far back as three years ago.

 

Oh, so when he was hobbled with essentially the same problem. That still doesn't contradict what I said, which is that no one has been arguing that the team is better off without a prime, healthy Roy. Just that the team is better off without this broken version of Roy.

 

I completely disagree. I've had those arguments in the past with some posters. It's my personal experience; if you don't believe it, that's not my problem, is it?

 

Oh papag... up to your old shenanigans?

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And I'll be damned! Look who's in the middle of it! Piss splashing off of his chiin and all!

 

It's nobody's problem that I don't believe that many people preferred a team without a healthy Roy. If you're saying that you've run across a couple of nuts who wanted the team to be minus their best player, I can believe that. I'm not sure what that proves. You can find a couple of people who believe anything.

 

Papag, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to compare season statistics when the main debate is about the differing systems this season. By comparing seasons, you're adding in other variables that you seem to be ignoring.

 

Oh, hell no. That guy was such a giant douchebag. I'm glad he's gone.

 

In this Aldridge offense, we need more shooters to prevent teams from doubling LA. Nic, Rudy, Wes, and Patty keep on missing wide open jumpers. Getting a ~40% 3pt shooter can improve our offensive ranks a lot.

 

Great point. Apparently being last in the league in pace again, yet with worse FG% and efficiency than years' past, is "exciting". As I watch, it becomes apparent that if Wesley Matthews is hitting 3s, the team can win, and that is with LMA playing at close to an MVP level.

 

There are always variables in any argument. Variables didn't seem to matter to the hoard that was calling for Nate's head the past two years. A 'variable' is simply a way of spinning an 'excuse', depending on your interpretation or POV. I include myself in this as well. Or, an 'excuse' is a way to spin a 'variable'. Either way, it's always considered, isn't it? Bashing Nate or Roy, for example, based on the same static variables, yet calling those same variables an 'excuse' when it pertains to a personal favorite only shows bias. The truth is totally subjective, dependent on any given loyalty or allegiance.

 

What would that be? Fostering conversation on this board?

Also, you don't have the cash to go to Glendale, yet you've burned money on a Droid with tapatalk? Hmm...

 

Well, then remain ignorant, because that guy had a boffo post on where the offense was with Roy this season.

 

I can't see the original post, but who started this rumor the Blazers have a new offense? They don't. Same offense, different personnel. In the past it was the Roy iso and kick-out. Now, it's the Aldridge iso and kick out. The only real difference in the "system" is that Roy drove the lane and kicked out, Aldridge starts in the post and kicks out.

The real difference isn't the system, it's the personnel. Roy had Aldridge he could dish to for the 17 - 19 footer, plus multiple 3-point shooters. Aldridge has much poorer shooters to kick out to. Webster and Bayless are gone, and replaced with nothing. Aldridge is now down low and doesn't have a comparable second option to pass to (Wes Mattews is a good player, but he's not close to pre-injury Roy, or even pre-beast Aldridge). Outlaw is gone, replaced with a submiature, poorer shooting version of himself - a guy who can, and will, create his own shot almost every time he touches the ball. Unfortunately, creating and making shots are two different things and the new version is almost a foot shorter and shoots a much lower percentage.

Same system, inferior personnel = worse results. No big surprise there. How can anyone possibly claim it's the system responsible for the decline in production and totally ignore the massive changes in the roster? It makes absolutely no sense.

BNM

 

Roy isn't anywhere near what he did as 3 time AS. It was obvious, he was very mediocre this season. I don't get the point of this thread.

Without Roy were mediocre. With a healthy Roy we were even worse. Is there a point?

 

Link, or your full of shit like usual.

You always complain about strawman arguments, your making a generalized strawman of the entire board... nice