Brad Miller vs. Nenad Krstic

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  1. Venom_7

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    I vote Brad Miller now, but Nenad can do a lot of the same things, and I ultimately see him being a better defensive player.
     
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    Right now it has to be Brad Miller. Miller is a good offensive player, and I think better than Krstic. I think that Nenad is going to be just as good as Brad, but I don't think, nor have I ever thought that Brad Miller is a good defender, and I don't think Nenad will ever be that good on defense either.
     
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    Brad Miller by far as an all around player. I mean Krstic is a guy I like a lot and he is progressing at a fast pace. But Brad Miller's passing ability is rare when it comes to big men. The last real good passing center I have seen like Miller is Vlade Divac. Miller is big, but also has a nice mid-range shot and can bang in the post when grab a decent amount of rebounds. But again, his passing ability is exceptional and he finds people in any situation: cutting, screen and roll, pick n pop, or just open for an outside jumper.

    But no knock on Krstic, he is one of the best young big men in the NBA by far. He is a big guy, 7'0'', is a pretty good scorer in the post, and also has a nice 8-10 footer. He is very aware of what's going on on both ends of the court and has a high basketball IQ. His rebounding ability has been his biggest improvement since comming into the league, and his positioning is nearly twice as good as it was 2 years ago.

    In the future, Krstic is going to be a boarerline All-Star in the East, possibly an All-Star. But again, the passing ability of Brad Miller is just impressive, thus making me put him ahead of Nenad.
     
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    2 posts for the price of one!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pistonfan11 @ Jun 13 2006, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>2 posts for the price of one!</div>
    2nd one was just deleted lol. It wasn't loading at all, and I waited like 1 minute. So I clicked Go a bunch of times.
     
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    I think right now Miller has an advantage because he is a better rebounder and has more experience, but I think Krstic has a very bright future and the chance to be better in the long run..
     
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    Miller's great passing ability makes him better than Krstic overall, in my opinion. Otherwise, they're equally talented, but Miller is a bit more active on the boards.
     
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    is this a serious comparison? Miller by a mile.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jun 13 2006, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>is this a serious comparison? Miller by a mile.</div>Its closer than youre makign it out to be dogma..Krstic isnt as good off the glass or defensively, but he is a better shooter and is continuing to improve his post game. I think he is as good if not better offensively and has alot of potential to improve. As said earlier, Brad Miller's passing ability is also something in which he has the upper hand on Nenad, but all in all, I think its a pretty solid comparison with Miller getting the nod at this point.
     
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    he's not a better shooter than Brad Miller. Brad has outside game, he can hit the 3-ball. and he's a far superior passer. It's not even close, stop being a homer.
     
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    Im not being a homer I said Brad Miller is better. You are wrong, however, in saying Brad Miller is better by a mile. Brad Miller is a better rebounder, defender and passer, but Krstic has the potential to be better than him and in my opinion has already surpassed him on the offensive end of the floor.
     
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    Bad Miller scores more, is a far better passer, shoots less than a percent less than nenad, and is overall much more versatile on that side of the floor. So, how is Krstic the better offensive player again? [​IMG]
     
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    Both are excellent jump shooters, but i think BMiller is better cuz he's much more likely to be an all star and he can shoot from anywhere. In addition, I love the part of his game in which he stands at the top of the key looking for open teammates, THAT'S AWESOME!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jun 14 2006, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bad Miller scores more, is a far better passer, shoots less than a percent less than nenad, and is overall much more versatile on that side of the floor. So, how is Krstic the better offensive player again? [​IMG]</div>Because he has a wide array of post moves to go along with his better shooting percentage from the outside..
     
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    Brad Miller for now but. Krisitic could easily have a better future. Kristic has really improved into a decent player. And, the Nets are going to need a guy like him.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hoopskidd5 @ Jun 14 2006, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Because he has a wide array of post moves to go along with his better shooting percentage from the outside..</div>Krstic does NOT have very many moves, and Miller is better from teh outside. He shoots 38% from the 3-pt line, Krstic shoots 25%.
     
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    Krstic doesnt have many post moves? Are you serious? He has a very wide array of post moves that he continues to add too..Krstic never shoots threes, most of his shots come from 18 feet, from which he shoots over 50%..
     
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    I've seen him play, and his post moves are nothing very special. He has an up and under, and a turn around jumper, but that's about it. And you said he shot a higher percentage from the outside, which he doesn't.
     
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    He doesnt shoot the threepoint shot, so that statistic is meaningless. He shoots as good as any big man not named Dirk from 18 feet out and has several very good post moves that he uses in the paint. He also had a jump hook and a running hook through the lane added to what you said on top of excellent hands that he uses very well when he gets position. His most dangerous weapon is the step back jump shot out of a post move which he uses alot and does great damage with because it draws the defense out..
     
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    below are Brad Miller's shot selection numbers courtesy of 82games.com[​IMG] below are Nenad Krstic's shot selection numbers courtesy of 82games.com[​IMG]These items prove two things upon examination.1) Nenad Krstic goes inside more than Brad Miller (53% as opposed to 25%) 1a. Nenad Krstic is a good finished inside (.541 fg%)2) Nenad Krstic is as good of a shooter from the outside as Brad Miller (.472 for Nenad, .475 for Miller)Since more than half of his scoring comes from the interior, he must posess a post game of some sort, right? Also, now that you know that he shoots the same percentage as Miller from the outside, do you still consider him a worse shooter?Now, I said that Brad Miller is a better player right now, but do you still think he is better by a mile? I said Miller is a better rebounder (yet 7.8 rpg for Miller, 6.4 for Krstic) as well as a better defender (yet they both average .8 bpg). Both players shoot a nice percentage from the field overall (Krstic 51%, Miller 49%) and both put up respectable scoring numbers (Nenad 13.5, Miller 15)..Keep in mind Krstic is the third option offensively on his team behind two 20ppg scorers and is only 22 years old in his second season in the NBA.Oh yeah, just for fun, here are their numbers for the playoffs this season:Nenad: 18ppg, 7.2rpgMiller: 9.2ppg, 3rpg
     

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