Chad Ford says Blazers hoping to get something for Oden.

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  1. MIXUM

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    His latest chat where he shits on us http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/36583



    Who would've thought that Kevin Pritchard ended up getting out just in time. Wonder if the curse is Karma. Paul Allen and company were pretty shameful in how they treated the guy who built the team ... fired him the day of the draft ... and now the team he built is crumbling right in front of them. The Blazers have so many injuries in issues, I'm not sure exactly what Rich Cho can do about it. They are hoping Andre Miller is a trade chip at the deadline. Believe it or not, they think Greg Oden might be able to get them something too. The two guys they don't want to move -- LaMarcus Aldridge and Nicolas Batum -- happen to be the two guys with the most trade value. It's a mess
     
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    This goes back to that conversation we were having in the other thread. Cho is powerless to do anything because we don't have any chips to trade. All we can do is ride it out and hope for some luck in the off season. When thinking about Andre Miller as a trading chip, remember when he was a free agent the Blazers were pretty much the only team that was interested in him. That doesn't say a lot for his marketability as a player for getting something useful back, and if he did leave, we would have no PG.
     
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    like i said....

    our only chips are draft picks, babbit and johnson......MAYBE RUDY
     
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    It IS a mess. He is basically pointing out the obvious
     
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    its more accepting what we have

    roy - not tradable

    la - cornerstone

    batum - potential

    wes - same as batum

    thats not a roster to rebuild or be able to rebuild on. its a roster that needs a crafty gm to bring in another big player and fill with role players. only thing left is to decide if oden gets another shot and too find a pg of future.
     
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    "Believe it or not, they think Greg Oden might be able to get them something too" Blazers hoping to get something for Oden
     
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    gregs gone. that we know.
     
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    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I thought Batum had no value...
     
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    i thought u dint care anymore?
     
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    You two are obviously not blessed with ESP. Otherwise, you would be reading each others minds correctly. :NOTMARIS:
     
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    Blazers edge and others ttakes on trades/playoffs

    Playoff Implications

    It's been said many times that Western Conference playoff teams need to have a bankable identity. Portland has worked to create that in Brandon Roy's absence and succeeded to the point where they were very likely to make the postseason as constructed last week. Camby, however, was a huge part of that identity, which emphasized extending possessions and making up for poor shooting with second-chance opportunities, spacing the floor around Aldridge, team defense, and playing hard every night. In his absence, Portland's offensive rebounding rate will decrease, its team shooting percentages will likely take a hit, Aldridge's efficiency will likely drop and its current defensive efficiency will be difficult to maintain. Those are some fairly critical areas when it comes to playing playofff-caliber basketball down the stretch.



    In other words, it's fair to say that Portland's playoff chances are directly tied to Camby's timeline. As mentioned above, if he's back in a reasonably short window, it's still Portland's No. 8 seed to lose. Any longer, and the lack of depth and quality becomes extremely exploitable.



    A final question to keep an eye on: Will playing without Camby for an extended period of time make Portland more likely to use Brandon Roy once he's deemed fit after his surgeries? It's easier to re-insert a player into a team that's in flux rather than a team that's set and stabilized. It's also more tempting to hope that Roy can be a panacea if the Blazers start to head south a bit without Camby as there would be less to lose. It's still too early to take a stance on that without knowing both of their timelines, but that's something to watch.

    Here's a round-up of other Marcus Camby reactions...

    Wendell Maxey believes the trade talk will heat up...

    "Some front offices are still trying to figure out exactly where they (Portland) stand with their roster," said one league source.

    "This (Camby's knee) sends the message that the Blazers are a lot more serious about making changes than before, but that's what happens to a number of teams once injuries take over. You can't control injuries, but you can control making moves to better your team."

    ESPN's NBA rumors wonders if New York Knicks forward Anthony Randolph is the answer...

    With Marcus Camby about to undergo surgery on his ailing right knee and Portland down another body in the frontcourt, it's possible the team could look to make a move to shore up depth concerns. And New York's seldom-used Anthony Randolph could be a logical fit. As ESPN's Chris Broussard reported late last week, Randolph, according to sources, is expected to be traded for a first-round pick in the next two weeks.

    Dwight Jaynes asks...

    Man, can Joel Przybilla hold up through an increase in his playing time? He played a season-high 17 minutes Monday night and was said to be OK Tuesday. Still, playing center for the Portland Trail Blazers seems to me one of the world's most hazardous jobs.

    Travis Demers analyzes the implications from all angles and wonders whether the Blazers are still a playoff team...

    It's hard to look at that roster, and that lineup and say that's a playoff team. It really isn't. As of this moment, the Blazers are in 8th in the west, 2 games behind Denver for 7th, 4 games back of New Orleans for 6th, 2 and a half games ahead of the Suns and Grizzlies, and 3 games ahead of the Rockets. If the Nuggets trade Carmelo Anthony, that should take them out of the picture, depending on what kind of contributers they get back. That may open up a spot. The Hornets are a borderline playoff team. The Suns are who scare me, now that they are starting to play well for the first time since pulling off the big trade in mid-December. The upcoming schedule looks relatively easy with the Kings twice, the Pacers and the Clippers. The rest of the schedule gets a little tougher in February, and more difficult in March and April. If they play .500 basketball the rest of the way, they won't get in.
     
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    Fucking ridiculous. it has been time to make changes for a few months now.
     
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    Of course I care. I want the Blazers to win every game. I said its less stressful. But you are pretty good at wording things and hearing what you want to hear. :devilwink:
     
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    Isnt that what you just did?
     
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    I didn't know. So what are we doing with him? not resigning him? Trading him?

    As you said....

    "our only chips are draft picks, babbit and johnson......MAYBE RUDY"

    So I guess that means we are just letting Greg go?
     
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    they may try to trade him but ford was mocking that idea.

    therefore im guessing he walks or resigns at a low risk high reward contract with incentives.
     
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    I doubt we let him walk. So I don't think we really know that "Greg's Gone"
     
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    idk..... sounds like we are starting over
     
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    Blazers are a mess and still a playoff team. The griz, the clip, GS all have a game plan and headed in the same direction . . . and none of them are in the playoffs.

    Me: I'll take the mess and playoff tickets!

    If any other team loses their superstar for the season, you basically count them out of the playoffs. Look at NO with Paul last season. Everyone is counting out the Nuggets if Anthony is traded. If Paul went down i'm guessing that NO doesn't make the playoffs (like last year). Dallas sunk like a rock without Dirk. Phx loses Amare and are now a lottery team.

    Blazers lose their superstar, the player who has carried them for the past 3-4 years, the only all star on the team . . . and Blazers are still a playoff team. Posters aren't giving the Blazers enough credit for what they are able to do without their number 1 player. Many other teams fall off the map when they lose their star.
     
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