Blazers v. Clips game thread (on TNT) 1/20

For some of us old fucks, it was the theme song to the Benny Hill show.

 

Just to be clear, I wasn't commenting on the system in the link when I said "wildly simplistic." I was referring to some comment earlier in the thread that had Blake "ahead" of Aldridge when adding up points/rebounds/assists but the commentator "would take the win" as if that's the comfort in Blake besting Aldridge. I thought that was a little silly without taking into account things like shooting and turnovers.

 

No doubt Stern will add him.

 

Those were players punishing a guy who they felt was arrogant or somesuch. I don't think coaches care for trying to "punish" Blake for being young or put "the young buck" in his place, or any such thing. I think they select based on merit. Of course, since their job is not to evaluate the entire seasons of All Star hopefuls, I'm sure that their judgments are far from infallible and they have the normal perceptual biases (exaggerating in their own minds how players did against their teams or on national games that they watched, etc). I just doubt they have some systematic desire to reward "established players" over young players.

 

i would like to see Phil Jackson's vote.

 

You mean before or after the Clippers just beat his team a few days ago when Griffin dropped 18 and 15 on them? (and did most of his damage late).

 

lol... and what better opponent to have a nutty play then the clippers!!!

 

Shawn Kemp was never this good. At any point in his career. Look up the numbers. Griffin's current stats are way better than Kemp's best season. Tonight was a bad game for Griffin. He's better at getting his own shot than you think. You don't score 47 points in a game without being able to create some of your own offense. That's the most points ANY player in the NBA has scored in a single game this season.

 

define ancient

 

After. He is already rubbing the Lakers the wrong way. I am not saying he does not deserve to be in the allstar game. I am saying LMA equally does too. So who do you vote for? I can see him voting for LMA just as easy (if not more) than a player who is stealing some of the spotlight away from the Lakers here in LA.

 

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that Phil Jackson doesn't really give a shit about Griffin "stealing" the spotlight from the Lakers ... nor do most (any?) coaches cast their votes out of spite.

 

I would argue that it wasn't that Griffin had a "bad" game, (he certainly got his numbers, but was inefficient in obtaining them) but that the gameplan to defend him was terrific and well-executed. Nate and the coaching staff deserve some credit. A lot of teams would have packed it in at 16-2.

 

He had a great game with what, 20/18......... but he had to work his ass off to get that 20 and I haven't looked at a box score, but I think he has a bunch of free throws. He struggles with long defenders like LA. The first half against the Lakers the other night Gasol made him go like 1/ for something. That is why I didn't think he would make it in the league, but he has proved me wrong.

 

OK so when you have 5-7 players at the same position that are worthy, what sways a coach to choose one over the others.
PTs? FG%?, W/L's?, Defense? Who makes their teammates better? This is a close call. I think it often gets political and/or personal when it is that close of a decision. Human nature says you choose who you like better at that moment.

 

I do think they give some weight to how their teams handled the player, and how that player affected their team's defense. I remember Sloan mentioning a few years ago that Roy's performance against Utah made him vote for Brandon. If that's the case around the league, then I think Aldridge can count on a vote from Sloan, Carlisle, Gentry, Adelman, Rambis, and VDN.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4130/gamelog;_ylt=AuSJWwlXaoeaM8F2XaXdZXZUPaB4