Chuck Still thinks Blake, Love > LA

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Chuck is bat **** crazy if he thinks Love should be in over Aldridge. Does he watch head-to-head matchups?

 

Both have better numbers that LA. LA's team is better though?

 

Blazers wins: 24
Clippers + Wolves: 26

Blazers head-to-head: 6-0 against LAC & Minnesota

The NBA has always said they value players putting up numbers on winning teams. We'll see if the trend continues

 

Both are also probably the worst defending PFs in the NBA, though.

While LMA was defending Griffin during the game, Griffin got to coast while 'defending' Przy after he had to be pulled off of LMA.

Love was so embarrassed on defense by LMA TWICE that he looked like he might cry.

Stats are fun in fantasy basketball, but coaches are paid to win, and defense helps win games.

 

I have a real problem with young players on bad teams, who can't even defend their position, getting star treatment. LMA made Griffin and his stubby arms look like a joke on offense last night. I almost felt bad for Griffin at times, because he just could not get anything going against LMA's length.

Then, for the most part, Griffin gets to pick his nose while 'guarding' Przy and crash the boards while D'Andre Jordan defends LMA because Griffin failed at it. LMA is playing both halves of the court, and his team won by 15.

 

Surprised that Barkely loves player who tear it up on the offensive end but are a liability on the defensive end? LMA is the player on the better team who has way better defense then both of those guys but he is not as showy as Blake Griffen the human highlight reel, nor does he get the garbage time minutes that love dominates and makes his stats look godly.

 

In Griffin's defense not many people have been able to slow LMA down in the last 20 games or so. And on a bad night he still managed to put up 20/18.

 

Love is not that good. I don't care if he averages 20 & 20, he puts up hollow stats. His rebounds don't impact the game, they are just Z-Bo stat-padders from missed multiple tip ins. He plays zero defense and is just a glorified garbage man. I'm glad Minny has something to hang their hants on, but he's just not that good. if he was, the Wolves would have more than 10 wins on the season.

 

Defense and wins will matter in terms of the coaches who vote the players into the game. Whether or not defense is played in the All-Star game will have no impact on who the coaches vote into the game. I'm sure Nate is lobbying his fellow coaches who he isn't playing in recent games; those who have played against "new LMA" see what he's doing while leading his team to wins.

 

All that shows me is that he is a stat monster at this point. He doesn't have to defend (much like Kevin Love), so he just gets to roam around on defense and use his explosiveness to get rebounds. He's a very good garbage man right now, perhaps the greatest in NBA history at such a young age.

 

Griffen is ALL about the stats. Anyone see him rushing for the rebound when the game was already over last night?

 

Last night aside, I've seen him in multiple games at least trying to deny the low block and stay in front of his man -- he's not a great defender or even a good one (yet) but he's far from the stat hound, all-offense, no-defense player you're trying to paint him out to be.

Fact of the matter is that LMA is playing at such a high level right now that he's making just about everybody who tries to guard him look a little silly.

 

I agree. Griffin does a good job of trying to hold his position, he moves his feet well on defense. He has trouble adjusting to the rotations (to be expected, he is a rookie), he falls too quick for fakes (to be expected, lack of experience), he does not jump to block as well as he should when he needs to - but overall, for a rookie big man - his defense is acceptable and will certainly get better in the future.

Isn't that wonderful?

 

People still take Chuck seriously?!

The way I look at it, Griffin will have many All-Star games to come, just give him the ROY and be done. Love and LMA to the All-Star Game.

 

If it's between those three I think Love is easily the least deserving.

 

That's not good, we've got a meme here going about how shitty these guys are and how undeserving of all-star consideration they are and you're mucking it all up with your "silly" facts.

 

Be careful with how you interpret that. As we said last night, Griffin wasn't guarding Aldridge. How many of those stats are merely because they were on the court at the same time? Also, the point being, neither one of them are as good as defender as Aldridge, and isn't that what a lot of this discussion is about? How have they done against Aldridge? Stats only tell part of the story.