OK, here's a little summary of what i heard; Vance says an NBA scout, apparently not from the Blazers, told his team that no matter what the numbers said, he went to watch babbit twice at Reno and told his team he would never be an NBA player. that is now Vance's opinion, that he was a totally wasted draft pick. About Roy, Vance claims that "everyone under the sun" has told him Roy will not be back.
just listened again. sounds like vance thinks roy will never be out there on court for "an extended period of time"
People can talk about it all they want. Until something definitive happens, all we can do is wait. Unless of course, Roy wants to have a "State of Roy" speech and let us know what is really going on.
It's dumb to say Roy will never be back, but it's not dumb to think Roy will never be back to what he was. I also have a scout friend, who told me that he liked Babbitt and if he worked hard and went hard on the floor, he could be a poor man's Chris Mullin....I think that's who he said anyway?
Its so stupid that most people on this board have given up on babbit without seeing him play. McMillan. Is not a coach. Who likes to play rookies so its not surprising babbit hasn't seen playing time. I will reserve my opinion until I see him play.
McMillan's history with rookies seems to say otherwise. But, like many things, once something is repeated enough, people just take it as fact.
Well I watched him play during Summer League and while I would certainly refrain from making any long-term judgements about his ultimate chances of doing anything in the NBA, I will say that I was very underwhelmed by his overall level of athletcism and he looked really overwhelmed by the level of competition he was facing. Maybe he'll turn into something with work, but I won't be shocked if he washes out.
Wasn't someone creating an all white basketball league for the Adam Morrisons and Luke Babbits in the world?
Well said, because if anything, McMillan has shown that if a player produces, he plays them. The number of Blazer rookies who didn't get minutes as a rookie, is pretty small.
I don't know much about Babbit simply because I haven't seen him play much. I would note, however, that Babbit's already played more minutes this year than Patty Mills played last season. I know, Patty had the injury, but he was available to play by the end of December. Like Babbit, he didn't get minutes because he was the third man at his spot, playing behind Miller and Bayless. Nate seems to prefer playing 3 guard lineups over having an inexperienced player at the SF spot. Also, to be fair to Babbit, he should be getting time to work on his game in the NBDL, but has to be kept around as a practice player because of the injury situation. I have no idea whether this kid can do anything in the NBA, but I see no reason to put him down simply because he hasn't had a shot yet.
The Blazers got Ryan Gomes as well. Jerryd Bayless looks like the worse trade at this point. This team needs Bayless more than it needs Martell.