Greg Oden back to rehabbing

Are those really the questions?

Here was your first post in this thread.

So maybe I'm wrong but you seem a little upset that he was rude and that he chose to sit at the bar. Where is the bit about him being injury prone or a bust?

 

yes it could be a mix up, but yahoo sports mentions it:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-blazersinjuries11810

and this old fun too...
http://www.faniq.com/blog/Greg-Oden-Partying-Too-Much-In-Portland-Blog-19829

quick isnt the only one who comments on Oden's night life.

and the 30lbs included the "late night fast food" he said he cut out at the same time.

 

i think this is the case. maybe this is the only trip to aura for a long time, but to me is raises concern that it could be (again, COULD be) a problem and is fair to bring up. and for the record, i dont care if he's rude to fans. everything ive heard hes been cool. but if he's playing, i dont care if he's a prick. jordan was a compete prick. but obviously worth it.

 

Those are some of the worst sources ever. Adrian Wojnarowski has an axe to grind with the Blazers and he has ZERO sources in his article. When he mentions Oden's drinking, where is his source? No where. He's making shit up.

Faniq, seriously? The article destroys it's own credibility by quoting Jason Quick:

Nice third hand reporting. The actual quotes for Oden paint a different picture in which he doesn't state he felt he ever had a drinking issue & has not given up alcohol. You can see the quotes and links to the first hand articles earlier in this thread.

I did find a copy of this old Oregonian article which mentions his affection for Cheeseburger in Paradise

So yeah, he liked Cheeseburgers while recovering from tonsil surgery back in 2007. That doesn't mean he kept up that diet. As far back as 2009 there are articles quoting him as shopping at Whole Foods.

Peoples diets change & perhaps you can make a diet "healthier" that doesn't mean his old diet was one that would be considered unhealthy for an athlete or the cause of knee problems.

 

And so he needs to not go out to a club? If that's your stance, then we'll agree to disagree.

 

Well if Oden says he doesn't have a drinking issue then he must not . . . because all people with alcohol issues are quick to admit problems.

Is there anyone who has followed Oden who think he doesn't like to party? Because the guy is a partier who likes to party.

Does that mean he has an alcohol issue? No. But funny how no other current Blazer I know has had to even answer these questions. Why are there questions about this from different media sources? Why does he like to party so much? Is this some kind of witch hunt on Oden or maybe there is/was something to the concerns about his drinking.

Everyone here can make their own conclusions to all this . . . but it isn't like Pdx saw Oden at a bar and raised an issue about him drinking that has never been raised before. And although I personally don't know how much he is drinking, it safe to say that whatever diet or regiment he is currently doing, it does not involve staying away from alcohol.

 

Of which "bad behavior" are you referring?

 

Is Oden fat? Does he lack musculature?

I don't know where you get the idea that pro athletes exist only on wheat grass juice and brown rice while living in a monastery.

 

Welcome to the reality of Oden being a #1 pick who has played less than a seasons worth of basketball in 3 years.

I mean c'mon. I think any criticism of Oden is fair.

 

If any of these injuries were his fault, I'd agree with you. But he had about as much control over these injuries as you do over your colon. Sometimes stuff just happens.

 

Hey, buddy, listen. People are saying "Greg admitted he has a problem". Guess what, no he didn't. That's why it matters. Bam, end of story. How much information do you need to fully assess if someone has a drinking problem? Certainly more than you or anyone else has been able to come up with.

What other current Blazer has been a #1 pick who has failed to meet expectations over and over again due to injury, while his alternate choice keeps soaring to ever greater heights and thus he now has the hostility and rage of butt-hurt fans directed at him? Only one.

Sports "journalism" is the loosest form of journalism there is. It's barely above teen girls gossiping in the hallway. There is usually very little facts to what is written and what is factual is often twisted, manipulated and transformed into something that will grab attention to fill a few minutes of air time or the eyeballs of reader.

How much does he party and how much do you consider is too much?

Let me answer that for you: You don't have a single clue as to how often Oden parties.

The quality of your conclusions relies heavily on what facts you're basing them off of. Frankly, everyone who says that Oden drinks too much, ate too unhealthy or parties too much has VERY VERY VERY little evidence of this actually being an issue. You can chirp amongst yourselves and feel high and mighty or release your rage against Oden, it doesn't change the hard evidence on the matter.

 

Nik, I expect better from you. Obviosuly this thread has turned and morphed from my original post. You obviously don't understand sattire. The last couple posts/pages have led to peoples feelings on Oden. My questions are only there to guage exactly how people feel here.

You went a head and did exactly what 1. I thought was going to happen due to this being ripcitytwo and 2. exactly what I said not to do, because I wanted to see true honest opinions.

Ed Doh, I have never seen someone confuse themself so easily. If you don't understand, stay out and let the big boys play. Stop trying to make pointless posts that try and misreprest what was posted (becuase you flat out didn't understand it) and try to make you self feel/appear like the genuis here on this forum.

 

We really have no evidence that they weren't his fault. In my case, it was purely hereditary.

 

How do we know that a better diet would have kept you from having your problem? Are you 100% sure? You may have been predisposed but did you do EVERYTHING you could have?

We also don't have evidence they were his fault. In fact, only with his first microfracture was the injury not caused by playing basketball.

It seems you're holding yourself to a lower standard than Oden. Not surprising.

 

You are THE one saying we can't judge and that we DONT know. How can you honestly sit there and type that Oden's injuries are NOT HIS FAULT?!?!?!?!

Are YOU a doctor, have YOU been working on/ with him? YOU don't know. You are not allowed to assume...

 

youre right. yahoo lets their writers make shit up all the time. when its common knowledge that the issue has come up before, you dont need to quote a sourse. its not the world vs you and greg oden bro. open your eyes.

conspiracy theory must begin with quick huh. in jan 09 quick was already planting the seed...

clearly he hasnt given up aclohol, he keeps breaking.

could be true. could be that he ate like shit and it didnt help his body get what it needs to keep him healthy. but my opinion doesnt count here. because im not a dr.

 

Whatever man. You came out with opinions.

Your opinion, Oden has a drink here and there . . . link? Proof?

That he parties from time to time . . . link? Proof?

You don't question his rehab efforts . . . link? proof?

His problems are due to his mechanics and not his eating or drinking . . . link? proof?

You want to see proof of an arrest, admission, checking into a tx facility or another player saying he has a problem to believe it . . you don't have a clue about people with alcohol problems.


You make the statement you think Oden parties from time to time . . . you have no idea how much he parties, how can you amke such a statement with very very very very very very little eveidence (i figure the more tiems I use very the more I make my point . . . should have capped it too)

Sports "journalism" is the loosest form of journalism there is . . . link? proof? Looser than tabloids, the star, papers from UK. You make these bold statement and then jump on others who do saying they don't know what they are talking about.

Sports journalism is the loosest form of jornalism (no other looser form of journalism). . . you have no idea what you are even saying.

 

maxiep and klinky are two of a kind. nobody is saying it is 100% truth that the drinking and diet are in fact the only reason for his injury issues. but if greg has had 3 major injuries in such a short time, it makes sense to wonder if these issues (brought up by legitimate journalists) have some merit. it makes sense to question his focus if he is partying. it makes sense to question this, but its amazing that you refuse to even acknowledge that it COULD be part of the problem. your love for greg oden is scary.

 

max and klink are right. you and the world are trying to bash greg oden. these are two things that will never change.