Like I said, Big Government, Big Unions and Big Business all working together against the interests of the citizenry.
Unfortunately, as with so many things written on the internets, this is just another lie. Here's the actual list, if anyone cares about the truth. http://www.hhs.gov/ociio/regulations/approved_applications_for_waiver.html barfo
I'm not sure what your point was, but there are a hell of a lot of unions, and unionized companies, on that list of 733 waivers. The real question is why the unions advocated the law, since many are getting waivers from aspects of it. So, you helped prove the point.
So what is the real percentage, according to your link, since you claim it isn't 50%? I scanned the list, and saw the the percentage of unions is a large percentage of the list... which is actually the point. Good work trying to nitpick the unimportant details to continue with your agenda.
Well, according to my link (which is the agency that is actually granting the waivers, so you'd think they'd know), 182 of the 733 are collectively bargained plans. That's 25%, which I think you'll have to agree is a hell of a lot different than "over 50%". And that's leaving aside the undocumented assertion that these were "unions that pushed for the law". I'm pretty sure it is not the case that every union lobbied for the healthcare law, so it isn't clear what fraction of those getting waivers did. 50% vs 25% is not nitpicking. And as for my agenda, it's truth. If facts are posted, I don't object to them. If lies are posted, I will try to identify them. This one was a lie. barfo
Why would any union need a waiver, considering they are the biggest citizen groups advocating the law? Also, why would 10% of the workforce have 40% of the total employees who have received the waivers? You can nitpick numbers, but it seems to me that any SEIU member who received a waiver should have no lobbying say in keeping the bill from being repealed, since many people opposed to the bill aren't being granted those same cost-cutting waivers. It's crony capitalism and pay-for-play, but because it's "your" side, you turn a blind eye and make your usual excuses.
You seem confused. Deeply confused. What "usual excuses" have I made? I've merely said that your side, in opposing the healthcare bill, should not tell lies. Is that so unreasonable? barfo
My side? I quoted a post that had inaccurate information. My question is still this. Why does the SEIU receive waivers, and then spend money lobbying to keep the law? Can you answer this question?
Ok, good that you agree. Of course I can. First of all, the waivers aren't waiving the entire law, they are temporarily waiving one requirement. You might as well ask how one can be against the healthcare bill if one supports the American government. Secondly, the SEIU is a large organization and what one local needs/wants may be different from what the national organization as a whole wants. You might want to ask yourself what these waivers actually waive, before getting all riled up. barfo
The fact that there need to be waivers that are apparently chosen on a whim, and then one of the primary waiver organizations spend money lobbying the bill, tells me all I need to know about the bill, and about the cronyism that is rampant in the Obama administration.
What (aside from ignorance) makes you think that they are chosen on a whim? It's a temporary waiver of a relatively small portion of the bill, with the goal of keeping low-wage employees from losing their healthcare coverage. You may know "all you need to know" in order to rant on the internet about things you don't understand, I guess, but you aren't showing much knowledge of the actual facts. barfo
If you take the time to read your own link, it is explained quite clearly. Most, maybe all, of these waivers are temporary band-aids to smooth the transition in awkward circumstances. Most, maybe all, will be denied. I expect the SEIU one will be denied, as anyone with low income losing their healthplan due to inability to pay the high costs will be forced to get another plan and it will be paid for by the government.
