The never-ending "Sarah Palin should STFU" thread

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  1. barfo

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    Tina Fey won the argument by defining the debate.

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    [video=youtube;oXeHeGrjji8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXeHeGrjji8[/video]
     
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    Bill O'Reilly comes off terribly in that video. I understand his "In any private concern, you're out" comment, but the rest of it just makes me feel sorry for Frank for even having to endure that "interview".
     
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    She did say she could see Russia from Alaska. So with that comment corrected, I notice it doesn't change anything of what I said. She says nutty things and people commenting on it has very little to do with her being a woman, being a leader in the "tea party" or whatever else was implied.
    So she made something up to characterize the debate to fit her overall p.o.v., in essence making shit up to argue, and you think that's a positive attribute? Sure, that's something most politicians do, but I find it strange that you're in favor of it here. Seems if you're truly a centrist as you suggest you are, you'd find that behavior by her appalling. You know, since what she "redefined" the debate with, didn't actually meet any ounce of truth.

    you're right, the fact she is smart enough to see suckers for the $$ they are, and her followers are too stupid to see she's using them as sheep, that does drive people crazy. Because having a big following can be a dangerous thing, especially when you espouse crap.
     
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    Which is true. You're the one who confused the words from an SNL skit with what was actually said, yet Palin and her "followers" are "too stupid"?

    :)
     
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    Still wondering what is so outrageous and dangerous about the above. People do realize that if Mubarak steps down, the Egyptian constitution mandates that an election needs to be held within 60 days of that occurence, right? Who are the candidates? How should the election be structured? What type of security will there be in 60 days?

    There are a lot of questions that need to be answered. The White House demanding Mubarak to step down is easy and sounds tough, but the reality of that happening is what is potentially dangerous, not Sarah Palin asking questions about it.
     
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    Cute, but there's a difference between Ms. Palin's opponents being so stupid as not to discover that line was from an SNL skit and Ms. Palin's being so stupid as to not have a retort to terming those review boards "death panels".
     
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    Well, for starters, seeing an Island that the US shares with Russia (or close proximity too), is not really seeing "Russia" in an important sense. There aren't bases there, there aren't planes that take off from there. It's a small island that doesn't harbor any threat.

    She'd be better off pointing out that she can see a foreign land from their back yard (Canada).
     
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    Yeah, one was based on an actual comment she made, and the other was done to scare people into thinking the goverment was going to kill grandma.
     
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    I think that says more about the stupidity of those who allowed the debate to be defined by a comedy show than it says anything about Palin.

    Yet Palin's the stupid one. ;)
     
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    But you can see Russia from Alaska. So, I guess I'm wondering why saying something that's true is "nutty"?

    When you manage and ration care, some people won't receive the health care they desired and will die. Again, I'm wondering why you don't think there's an "ounce of truth" to her labeling. In the UK, people are denied cancer treatment and expensive drugs all the time by these kinds of boards, simply because the NHS decides they aren't going to meet the minimum standard to contribute to society. As a result, these people are denied care and die earlier than they might. It sounds like a death panel to me.

    Uh, yeah. She's a politician. Do you think Obama or Gore are any different?
     
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    It's Big Diomede and Little Diomede. And if you believe you have to see Russia to have it be a threat, then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

    It would be easier if you just said that you learned something and you were mistaken about a quote misattributed to her. People make mistakes all the time; I certainly do.
     
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    You do realize that the " end-of-life advisory" panels were recently removed from the bill after the "death panel" accusations, right? If you would take the time to educate yourself, instead of watching comedy shows, perhaps you'd have a more complete understanding of a complex issue. :)

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ri...tent_death_panels_removed_from_obamacare.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/05/health/policy/05health.html?_r=1&ref=us


     
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    No, one was based on an SNL skit, and the other was helping to define a debate. I'm just wondering, when Democrats claim that cutting Social Security will condemn seniors to eating dog food and going without medication, how would you describe that tactic?
     
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    Because it is factually true, does not therefore, mean she had some kind of diplomatic experience or that it gave her some kind of credibility. As that was the context of her original quote/reference, that is why it's nutty.

    If you ask someone what kind of foreign experience they have and their best answer is that they can see another country from their state, that is a bad answer.

    You can say all sorts of "true" things and still be true. For example, barfo says things that while they are true (or at least, a part of them is true), they are nutty.

    because there weren't death panels. there were groups who would offer end of life options. They weren't death panels.
    Shame thing she wasn't talking about people in the UK then.

    Nope.
     
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    And you're aware that Kathleen Sebelius put them back in, right?

    http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/arti...cleid=20101230_11_A13_CUTLIN299860&rss_lnk=11

    But the fact that the language defined the issue so strongly, and had them removed temporarily, showed how much Ms. Palin defined the debate.

    As for that skit, I never saw it. However, I'm politically aware enough to know that Tina Fey said it and not Sarah Palin.
     
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    Anybody going to try and tackle this one? So far, we have Palin's biggest critic quoting Tina Fey as proof of Palin's alleged stupidity, we have the "death panels" that have recently been removed from the bill (and the NYT, of all places, credits Palin for her impact), and we have a vague transitional process in Egypt that has constitutional ramifications that must be addressed.

    If the idea of this thread is to point out Palin's stupidity, how about actually addressing the subject matter? :)
     
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