Chris Paul vs. Dwight Howard

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  1. ballerman2112

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    I dont know if this comparison has ever been done but who would u rather have on your team for the future?I will post later...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jun 16 2006, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dont know if this comparison has ever been done but who would u rather have on your team for the future?I will post later...</div>I would take Chris Paul. Even though I think Dwight will become huge in this league and possibly better than Paul I just can't pass up Paul. He's the better leader of the two and could be the next jkidd in the league but a better scorer. Hes a true leader and pure pg and thats really hard to find in the league these days. I mean there's power fowards everywhere. I mean I love how cp3 can do it all. He can score, pass, rebound, play defense, lead his team, and is pretty clutch for his age. These are both gonna be stars though in the very near future.
     
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    All of those things are true that you said and hearing all of that, I would still take Dwight Howard in a heartbeat. Your right, their are alot of good PF's in the league. Now tell me how many of them are as gifted as Dwight Howard. Not very many. He is the best rebounder in the league and he is 21. From the games that i have watched(5 to 7), the offense doesnt even really run threw him for some reason. It doesnt seem that he gets that many offensive touches and he is still putting up 16 a night. His defensive presence is good and he is extremely athletic. When you have a good big men, it always gives u a better chance to win a championship. IMO
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jun 16 2006, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>All of those things are true that you said and hearing all of that, I would still take Dwight Howard in a heartbeat. Your right, their are alot of good PF's in the league. Now tell me how many of them are as gifted as Dwight Howard. Not very many. He is the best rebounder in the league and he is 21. From the games that i have watched(5 to 7), the offense doesnt even really run threw him for some reason. It doesnt seem that he gets that many offensive touches and he is still putting up 16 a night. His defensive presence is good and he is extremely athletic. When you have a good big men, it always gives u a better chance to win a championship. IMO</div>Yeah im getting what you mean but im just going by how rare of a player chris paul is not that a player liek dwight howard isnt. It is so rare to find a player liek chris paul who is undersized but still does it all. I mean its so rare to find a pg who can shoot, pass, rebound, play defense, be the playmaker, be the leader, and perform at your best when your team needs it.
     
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    A PG makes your team go round. So ill take CP3, hes young, talented, and has a great future. Howard will be a great player, but I would take Paul because of his talent and leadership at one of the hardest if not the hardest position to fill in basketball.
     
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    Even though it is rare to find a player like Chris Paul, you still build your team around big men. They have more effect on the game. Chris Paul and Dwight are both extremely special. How about this, we say both
     
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    If you had both of them on a team....:bat: to any team who stands in their way. lol
     
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    this is actually really tough.I'd go with Paul and just have a run and gun phoenix like team. I'd try to have defense though.Paul is definetly easier to build around.
     
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    Dwight howard .Big men bring succes more often than a point guard. Last 3 nba champions had good or great bigmen
     
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    Easy, Chris Paul. He makes everyone around him better.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo_061 @ Jun 17 2006, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dwight howard .Big men bring succes more often than a point guard. Last 3 nba champions had good or great bigmen</div>exactley!......even though Chris Paul MIGHT be better than Dwight(if so not by much), big men are more valuable and thats the bottom line. The two most valuable players in this years NBA finals are two 7 foot players. Im saying most valuable this season not in just this series. That has to tell you something.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRob-50-Forever @ Jun 17 2006, 01:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Easy, Chris Paul. He makes everyone around him better.</div> and dwight doesnt? Of course Chris Paul is going to make players around him better. thats what good pg's do. its harder to make your teammates better when u are a PF/C
     
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    Dwight. Big men that are double-teamed create huge opportunities for their teammates (if they're competent). Although ideally I'd like to have both because Paul is just amazing.
     
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    Dwight Howard only because you rarley find a GOOD bigman thats a threat on both sides of the court.
     
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    You should all know that it is almost impossible to compare players that play almost completely different positions.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sham @ Jun 22 2006, 03:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You should all know that it is almost impossible to compare players that play almost completely different positions.</div>This isn't to compare the players move and skill sets, it's asking who you would rather have to start your franchise with. Dwight Howard isn't far enough in his offensive game to be double teamed on a nightly basis yet, but he is getting there. It won't be long before he will be commanding a double team nightly. I am a huge Dwight Howard fan, but i would pick a point guard like Chris Paul over a Dwight Howard if i was starting my team. Your point guard is the one regulates the flow and pace of your team offensively. Paul is a special type of point guard in this league that will be able to score if needed, and smart enough to know when to score. He will be smart enough to know when to run, and i think will be the best floor general in the leauge soon. Dwight Howard will be a special player, but if i'm setting up a team, i would want Chris Paul who i think is just a little more special in this league.
     
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    I would take Chris Paul...just look at what he did to the Hornets team, he made them better immediatly. Hes going to become a much better player in his future also, and I would have a point guard who runs the show rather than having a big man (as we saw with the suns this season). I like Howard, but I would rather take CP3.
     
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    This is very close, and me and ballerman have actually talked about this before. I'll take Paul. Dwight Howard is seriously one of my fav players, but it's almost impossible to find a pure pg like Paul is nowadays.True, mostly all the championship teams lately have been revolved around big men, but they also had a hell of a wing player along side, with the exception of tim duncan '99. But he did have D-Rob and alot of players who had the will to win. Shaq had Kobe, Shaq had DWade.Oh, and the Pistons championship team was led by Billups. I know, I know, they had a ton of talent, but he was their leader.And sure Dwight Howard is a complete beast around the basket, but he's not the only one. There still is plenty of great rebounders in the league.Let's not forget that Chris Paul completely turned around a franchise heading in the wrong direction, with virtually no help by his side, in a tougher conference top to bottom. He turned David West into a 17/9, just wow. And keep in mind that New Orleans made no major transaction in the off-season, so the turnaround was basically all surged from CP3.And look at the supposrting cast. Dwight had a better supporting cast, and finished with a worse record in a weaker conference. And you can't totally blame this on Steve Francis. There was about a month where Francis did nothing, to help or hurt the team. He barely played, and he didn't dominate the ball like he used to. Francis had no effect on them that month and they still played poorly.In conclusion, What Chris Paul brings to the table is simply more valuable than what Dwight brings. Chris Paul makes his teammates better, is a great passer, a good rebounder (especially for a pg), a good defender, he pretty good scorer, and a hell of a leader. Dwight is a beast on the boards, a good shotblocker, can score downlow occasionally (although the majority of his points would come off dishes and alley-oops. Plenty of role players can play post defense and rebound. I don't know of any role players that can lead a team like Paul can.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jammin @ Jun 21 2006, 11:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dwight Howard only because you rarley find a GOOD bigman thats a threat on both sides of the court.</div>Yea I agree....
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jammin @ Jun 22 2006, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dwight Howard only because you rarley find a GOOD bigman thats a threat on both sides of the court.</div>Exactly right...........How many big guys are there who are that good...........Not ManyChris Paul did amazing things in his rookie year, and will be a future all star for many years. But like I said great big guys are hard to get in the NBA.So it's Howard............But I don't see how you can compare the 2.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Jun 28 2006, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So it's Howard............But I don't see how you can compare the 2.</div>Everyone that says this, needs to think a little harder. No one has really compared the two as one on one players or anything, and they are not comparing these guys skill sets. This is a completely logical question. It is a question of which would you rather have to start a team with. In this case a solid big man, or a solid point guard.
     

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