http://realgm.com/src_feature_article/101/...gnani_in_italy/ Everyone is sleeping on this kid, i've been saying it for almost a year now. If he's not picked in the top three some GM's will have some explaining to do.
I don't know all that much about him because I have nothing to back up an analysis other than scouting reports and a 3 minute highlight film. So I can't say anything about his game or his future in the league. But I will say that the thing that is scaring GM's is that he may not come over, you would have to wait to see him play in the US, etc. They are afraid of another Fran Vasquez situation.
Fran Vazquez has been the only player other than Fred Weis that has not come over when asked to and Vazquez just has a rare/wierd attitude all together. I doubt Bargnani would go against a teams wishes and stay like Vazquez, I mean if Bargnani goes in the top 4 and would stay in Spain he would be sundried by the US media and his reputation would hit hard. Not to mention he's a HUGE prospect in comparison to Vazquez who is still unknown to most NBA fans to this day. Bargnani would have to literally be out of his mind insane to be a top 4 pick and not come over.
OK, I know I have only seen a highlight reel or 2 of Bargnani, but he is nothing like Amare lol. Bargnani looks to be a good shooter who is 7'0'' and can play 2-3 positions, put the ball on the floor, and get shots off easy. Amare is an athletic powerhouse who is developing a mid-range touch lol.
this guy will be good. but i think people are really overrating him on his game and ability to play in the NBA. i doubt he has a HUGE rookie year. but a good one.
I really like Bargnani too. I've said this before and i'll say it again, just bc he CAN shoot doesn't mean he can ONLY shoot. He is a very good ballhandler for his size, and he really isn't afraid to take it to the basket.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (regularguy @ Jun 19 2006, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>this guy will be good. but i think people are really overrating him on his game and ability to play in the NBA. i doubt he has a HUGE rookie year. but a good one.</div> How so? He has amazing skills...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (arya202 @ Jun 19 2006, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Looks like Euro Amare to me.</div>LOL an you got this idea where??? Since when is Amare best at scoring by shooting. LOL anyways I honestly can't say much of Bargani other than what I've heard from scouting reports like celticballa but from what it sounds like he has a ton of skill and potential and im really interested to see how he plays in the NBA.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jun 19 2006, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How so? He has amazing skills...</div>I agree with regularguy, as well. International players always have a tough time adjusting to the NBA, they hit that "wall" usually in their first year in the league. Besides, he's so skinny for his size. He needs to get in the weight room, he needs to be pushed around before he can push around other guys. He might do well, but not great.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Jun 21 2006, 02:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I agree with regularguy, as well. International players always have a tough time adjusting to the NBA, they hit that "wall" usually in their first year in the league. Besides, he's so skinny for his size. He needs to get in the weight room, he needs to be pushed around before he can push around other guys. He might do well, but not great.</div> All players hit a rookie wall, not just international players. And Tyrus Thomas, LaMarcus Aldridge and Adam Morrison and the list goes on need to add weight and get stronger...From recent scouting trips Bargnani has a solid/improving build somewhere around 240-245 pounds. I've watched all the video available on him, and I agree with scouts that he has elite offensive ability.
gimme a break. why do you love the guy so much? you should get off HIS nuts. i wouldn't be surprised if you start making a sig on him.look: i'll give you a reason why i think he'll be a semi-bust.. the team he gets drafted into gives him limited minutes. for whatever reason. that way he won't have the chance to improve his game in the NBA. which all international players need to do. they watch a few NBA games and that's all. they don't know how it's like in america etc.another reason why i don't think he'll be -THAT- good is that he'll be too dependent on his shootting skill. from what i've seen, he has a jumper. but it isn't anywhere as good as certain other shooters in the NBA. he's too small (muscle-wise) to bang inside, and the scouting report even says w/ his size he should be able to rebound more. what good is a big man w/ no rebounding ability.it may be small points, but those are key in the NBA. a big man doesn't really need a great ball-handling ability. he doesn't really need a great shot. he's going to need a big strong build and the ability to have the awareness of where the ball's going so he can box out and get it. not every team has the same offense as dirk so the big man can do what he wants. it's all going to depend on what team he's going to be drafted into.
Again, since you can't seem to read. Look around the draft, many of these guys are too skinny for their position. He has a jumpshot but has great post moves and first step. All people talk about with him is his shooting but it's only a small part of his offensive game. And again, he's playing in the Spanish finals right now and is playing VERY well. He's NBA ready. You make him sound like he won't be able or good enough to play. Whatever team picks him needs a PF so whoever drafts him will play him. Unlike Tskitishvili and Milicic he's actually playing competitively and at a high level. He has great offensive awareness and he can easily add muscle. You don't seem to understand that most players come into the league needing to add weight, he can easily add 10 pounds this offseason and play at 245. You don't seem to really know anything about him and you just throw out European stereotypes.
Has anyone on hear actually seen this guy play, past three minute clips, and video higlights? I know i haven't, and most other people on here haven't actually seen him play in any basketball games. BCB talks like he has seen him every day, and other people compare him to Amare Stoudemire(which looks crazy on highlights.) Personally, I think it's hard to go out and say how well he will do in the NBA, and how good he will play without having actually seen him play. The popular thing to do is compare him to Dirk Nowitzki, but every foreign player that can shoot is compared to either Dirk Nowitzki or Peja. I heard from i believe Gregg Anthony(or one of those commentators during the draft order selection show thing), he may be more like a Vladimir Radmanovich player. One that has the skill set of Dirk and the ability to play, but not the fire or competitive drive that Dirk has. I don't know what he will turn out like, i haven't seen him play, and i doubt anyone else here has watched him play a game.
Greg Anthony is a moron. Bargnani owns Radmanovic with his ability to get to the rim...etc...and his shotblocking skills. The only thing Radmanovic and Bargnani have in common is that they are good spot up shooters, don't understand that comparison. A lot of people on this board have hardly seen most of the college prospects they talk about so...
And what have you seen to prove that he is so great at getting to the rim, and blocking shots? Have you actually watched him play basketball before in a game? Or have you just read scouting reports, and watched highlights of him playing? I doubt you have seen him play in a real basketball game at all. You watched one or two higlights on him and made up your mind that he is so good, because that's what the announcers said after the highlights.
i've seen some highlights, but i haven't seen any of his games or anything. but from what i've seen he's boring. his highlights aren't even highlights. hahaha he might do okay in the NBA. but i don't see him putting him 25+ ppg like Dirk can..
I actually have seen him in one game. But each of the highlights on youtube or from one game each, so you can see what he does in one game. And BCB did have a good point when he said that most people don't know about the college recruits that they talk about. 100% true.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jun 22 2006, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And BCB did have a good point when he said that most people don't know about the college recruits that they talk about. 100% true.</div>Maybe he does have a good point that most people don't know about the college recruits they talk about, but that's just the excuse he is using for him so that he can talk about a prospect he knows nothing about. So while it is true most people don't know about the college recruits, the reason behind BCB saying that is rather sad. He is pretty much saying "i don't know what i'm talking about but its fine, because other people don't know what they are talking about either."
