^Because he's not biased and I respect that. I think he's making fun of all the bandwagoners with his sig too.
[quote name='Heatfan32' post='94496' date='Jun 19 2006, 07:02 PM']The Cavaliers supporting cast is nothing compared to the Heat's and you wanna know why LeBron didn't play that well against the Pistons? It's called double teaming and relying on other players to hit there shots, kinda like what Dallas has been doing to Shaq lately. The Pistons would clog the lanes and make sure Bron couldn't drive and forced him to hit the jumpshot and pass to his teamates which wouldn't hit crap.[/quote]They double teamed LeBron and Wade isnide the 3 point line, the defense agains tboth was the same. And once again, the role players are why the Cavs almost beat the Pistons, not Bron. And many people didn't pick the heat to get past the Nets, let alone the Pistons. LeBron's teammates stepped up big time when he wasn't playing well, it was a TEAM effort. Wade played statistically great and teammates stepped up. No one predicted the heat, who started 0-7, to push a very tough Pacers team to 6 in HIS first playoffs, either. His supporting cast was worse than the Cavs supporting cast this year. Yes, he wasn't the complete leade rof that team, and he didn't come alive until last 1/3 of the season or so, but nontheless, he REALLY stepped up his game in those playoffs. But he DIDN'T play wella gainst the Pistons! 26PPG on 44% shooting, 6APG, and 4.5 To's per game are a huge decline from his regular season stats. Wade's stats were pretty steady, but he shot an outstanding percentage and din't force shots like bron was doing. Granted, he did have Shaq, who Pistons played 1 on 1, but nontheless, Bron didn't play well at ALL agains the Pistons.To Arizona Fan: Yes, but they didn't double Shaq, they DID double Wade at times. LeBron didn't have a good series vs the Pistons, and his teammates carried him moreso than vice versa. And Wade is a better playmaker because of his speed, ballhandling, and great passing. In that sense he is a LOT like AI, can play the point and shooting guard at same time. I guess I should have been a little more clear, but for the most part yes I think I would take AI over LeBron, just because he has proven he can lead teams to deep into playoffs, get game winners, take over games, etc.... I think AI/Bron/Wade/T-Mac are all in same boat for most part, with Kobe a notch above them all.And NO one can carry a team to a chmpionship without second star. MJ couldn't, Magic couldn't, Larry couldn't, Duncan couldn't, Hakeem couldn't, etc....
Name on one star on Hakeem's team when they won. Otis thorpe? Vernon maxwell? Kenny smith? Sam cassel? There not stars. Their role players. Hakeem won without a star on his side. So did duncan in 2003, you had a burnt out robinson and you had an inconsistent parker. Duncan's playoffs stats were monster like, 24-15-5 and he nearly had a quadroaple* in game 6.Those two guys won championship/s without a star on their side, could be more.And sorry for taking this off-topic
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Jun 19 2006, 07:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They double teamed LeBron and Wade isnide the 3 point line, the defense agains tboth was the same. And once again, the role players are why the Cavs almost beat the Pistons, not Bron.And many people didn't pick the heat to get past the Nets, let alone the Pistons. LeBron's teammates stepped up big time when he wasn't playing well, it was a TEAM effort. Wade played statistically great and teammates stepped up. No one predicted the heat, who started 0-7, to push a very tough Pacers team to 6 in HIS first playoffs, either.His supporting cast was worse than the Cavs supporting cast this year. Yes, he wasn't the complete leade rof that team, and he didn't come alive until last 1/3 of the season or so, but nontheless, he REALLY stepped up his game in those playoffs.But he DIDN'T play wella gainst the Pistons! 26PPG on 44% shooting, 6APG, and 4.5 To's per game are a huge decline from his regular season stats. Wade's stats were pretty steady, but he shot an outstanding percentage and din't force shots like bron was doing. Granted, he did have Shaq, who Pistons played 1 on 1, but nontheless, Bron didn't play well at ALL agains the Pistons.To Arizona Fan:Yes, but they didn't double Shaq, they DID double Wade at times. LeBron didn't have a good series vs the Pistons, and his teammates carried him moreso than vice versa. And Wade is a better playmaker because of his speed, ballhandling, and great passing. In that sense he is a LOT like AI, can play the point and shooting guard at same time. I guess I should have been a little more clear, but for the most part yes I think I would take AI over LeBron, just because he has proven he can lead teams to deep into playoffs, get game winners, take over games, etc.... I think AI/Kobe/Wade/T-Mac are all in same boat for most part, with Kobe a notch above them all.And NO one can carry a team to a chmpionship without second star. MJ couldn't, Magic couldn't, Larry couldn't, Duncan couldn't, Hakeem couldn't, etc....</div>The Role players for the Cavs are the same reason why they lost game 7, Pistons dared them to hit shots and no one stepped up. Also, who was it that said the Heat wouldn't get past the Nets? I'm sure only Nets fans would say that, no one predicted them to get past the Pistons but people actually knew they had a chance while practically everyone said the Cavs will get swept against Detroit.Furthermore, Wade played pretty bad in his first two games against Dallas so he hasn't been all that steady either. Wade also shot 44% against the Bulls, again though his team is better. LeBron is younger then Wade and this was his first year in the playoffs, I expect him to come out even stronger next year.It seems to me your putting Wade over LeBron because he played spectacular in 3 straight games but LeBron hasn't made the finals so you wouldn't know how he would fair either. Wade is also faster then Bron, yes but since when does being faster then someone make them a better playmaker? LeBron is also a good ballhandler and great passer.Your arguement about the Pacers and the Heat series doesn't make sense to me, he wasn't the clear leader of the team so what makes you think he was the once that pushed it to 6 games? Bron had to try to force shot at times against Detroit because he is the leader of the team and if his teamates aren't making there shots it's his role to try to step in, there supporting cast helped but it was also the same reason why they lost.
[quote name='Heatfan32' post='94523' date='Jun 19 2006, 07:33 PM']The Role players for the Cavs are the same reason why they lost game 7, Pistons dared them to hit shots and no one stepped up. Also, who was it that said the Heat wouldn't get past the Nets? I'm sure only Nets fans would say that, no one predicted them to get past the Pistons but people actually knew they had a chance while practically everyone said the Cavs will get swept against Detroit.[/quote]Game 7 is when Bron should have stepped up, and didn't, period. That is one of my gripes with him, and just proves my point. And MANY people predicted Nets to beat Heat, but my point wasn't to counter that no one predicted Cavs to beat Detroit. My point was both were underdogs to beat Pistons. I do too, but we are talking about here and now. Not who WILL be better (I honestly feel Bron has all tools to easily be the GOAT) but who is better right now. Wade is 2 years ahead of bron IMO. Nope, look back a few months ago in the Wade vs Bron topic, I put Wade over Bron then too. Wade has a certain edge to him that Larry and MJ had, an edge that bron is just starting to develop. And once again, we're talking here and now, not who willd evelop into better etc.... He is also better ballhandler and better at initiating an offense. When Bron is playmaker, he tends to keep offense stagnent and he holds ball way too much at top of key. I meant in the season he wasn't leade rof team with stats, but in playoffs he sure was. I am going to get to this in a bit, but Wade and Bron's first playoff runs were almost identical. But in playoffs, Wade was the leader of that team, bar none. Once again, Bron didn't play well, period. he wasn't agressive, and then at time he'd try to do too much. When your teammates aren't playing well, you have to take over. That's his job. Wade didn't force shots against Dallas in game 3 and 5 when his team was down going into last few minutes, despite double teams. Ok, let me make you hopefully understand my arguement and reasoning a little better. There are 2 players, player A and player B. Player A, in the late part of his rookie season, led his team into 4th spot in playoffs. He hit a buzzer beater in 1st round, and led his team to 2nd round. In 2nd round, he single handedly led team to a near upset of #1 seeded team in that conference, totally dominating in 4th quarters and having career nights to lead team. In his 2nd season, with a better supporting cast, helped lead team to conference finals. In previous round, with his superstar teammate hurt, he led team with career nights in scoring to a sweep. When his team was up 3-2, he was injured, and the team ended up losing the series soley because of his injury, not the other stars. The following year, he has career numbers, is finally main leader of team in terms of on court performance, makes history vs top seeded team in conference, sends team into Finals. In 3 straight games, he scores 35pts, breaks into record books, and in the 2 biggest games of series, he explodes in 4th when team is down to outscore other team and have game tying/winning shots and defensive stops.Player B, in his rookie season, was rookie of the year. But despite decent supporting cast, failed to make playoffs due to 2nd half of season collapse. In 2nd season, he plays even better, breaking into record books as one of about 3 players in league history to average 27/7/7, but yet again, the team he was leader of has huge 2nd half of season collapse and team fails to make playoffs. Third year, even better, although assists go slightly down. His teammates are better, and team finally makes playoffs in 4th seed. First round he hits game winner, and in 2nd round faces top seeeded team in conference, althoguh that team is staggering. Pushes them to 7 game series, but his performance isn't as good as regular season.Stats in current seasonlayer A: 27PPG (50% shooting, 18FGA's per game), 7APG, 6RPG, 2SPG, 3.6 To's per gamePlayer B: 31PPG (48% shooting, 23FGA's per game), 7APG, 7RPG, 1.6SPG, 3.3 TO's perFrom all of that, who would you take RIGHT NOW? I would take player A, as he is more seasoned, more proven, more efficient, and proven leader and can take over game,s while Player B is still in that transofrmation. That is why i choose Wade over Bron.
Bron should've stepped up but do to lack of his teamates not showing up there isn't much you can do. Listen, even if you score 100 points your teamates need to step up, when Jordan scored 63 didn't he LOSE that game? So had LeBron put up the best numbers of his life he probably wouldn't have won anyway.If Wade is two years ahead of LeBron it's because1. He started with a better team then LeBron(Cavs were 17-65) against Miami's 25-57, none of the records are very promising but the Cavs had the worst team2. Wade has had more time in the playoffs, since his first year hes been to them because of his better supporting cast and has more experience over LeBron who just made it his first time.The Heat's supporting cast in 2003 was bad? Lamar Odom, Eddie Jones and Brian Grant is a BAD supporting cast? He did step up in the playoffs leading the team in points but that doesn't neccesarily make you the leader.Few things about Player A, he hit 1 game winning shot in the first round againt Player B's two game winners. Also, he single handedly lead them to the second round? Had Eddie and Lamar not played well he wouldn't have made it past the first round.-LeBron is a better scorer, even if it's by a little.-Hes a better rebounder, even if hes 4 inches taller.-I'll give the passing to Wade, although he should be a good passer because he is a guard-LeBron has been the leader of the team throughout the whole season, while Wade lead the team to a 10-11 season without Shaq.Player A has had the better post season due to the fact his team actually made it past the second round, Wade is great and my favorite player but I still think LeBron is better.The series against Dallas isn't over either, if Wade scores 4 points the next game he might be considered a choker.
[quote name='Heatfan32' post='94580' date='Jun 19 2006, 08:26 PM']Bron should've stepped up but do to lack of his teamates not showing up there isn't much you can do. Listen, even if you score 100 points your teamates need to step up, when Jordan scored 63 didn't he LOSE that game? So had LeBron put up the best numbers of his life he probably wouldn't have won anyway.[/quote]Once again, that proves my point. Jordan did the very best he could, but it wasn't enough. Bron has to have that killer instinct. Don't forget, Bron's first year was Z's first year healthy and Boozer's coming out year. Miami lost one of best coaches all time in wade's first season, while Cavs got Paul Silas. I never said it was bad, it was mediocre and just as good as Cavs were this year. I think I'd take Hughes, Z, and Gooden over Lamar, Eddie and Brian Grant, too. He stepped up BIG in playoffs, was the emotional leader and leader by example. He simply ignited the crowd and brought life into the city again. If Shaq didn't see something VERY special, he wouldn't have went to the heat. Well player B did travel on one of them, but whatever, and other was an easy layup, but I'll give it to ya. And if Eric Snow (or was it Damon Jones, slips my mind) didn't hit GW shot in game 6, Bron might not have seen the 2nd round either. Wade is a better scorer IMO. Takes 5 less FGA's yet score only 4 less PPG. I don't care if he doesnt have range, the greatest scorer of all time didn't have range either. I disagree with wade being better passer, I feel Bron is better passer, but wade is bette rplaymaker. Huge difference there. And about the record without Shaq, that was at beginning of season, before team started to blend together and coaching was an issue. Look at what Wade did without Shaq or with Shaq injured last year in regular season and playoffs. To each his own. This arguement is all based upon what you consider greatness to be. I feel that Wade has edge because the stats are almost identical, but wade is better defender, more efficient scorer, and has proven with and without Shaq (injured and non-injured) that when his team is down he can single handedly will his team to win, and have the edge to make the plays needed to win the game. There is no need to say, "well what if bron was on the Heat?" Well, what if T-Mac was on 2000-2002 Lakers? Bottom line he wasn't, and he couldn't do in playoffs what Kobe did in Finals. Same goes for Wade and Bron, Bron couldn't do what Wade has done on bigger stage, and that deserves huge props.Both are amazing players, both are gifts god send to the basketball world. I just feel people are too caught up in the Bron hype, and are hypocrites if they say MJ is GOAT yet Wade isn't better than Bron.
A healthy Larry Hughes along with Z and Gooden might be better then Jones, Odom and Grant but the fact is he played what? 20 games in the entire season? Wade has always had the better team over LeBron and Van Gundy wasn't a bad coach either.Lets see each players stats by seasonsWade 2004: 16 PPG, 4 RPG, 4 APGLeBron 2004: 20 PPG, 5 RPG, 5 APGWade 2005: 24 PPG, 6 APG, 5 RPGLeBron 2005: 27 PPG, 7 APG, 7 RPGWade 2006: 27 PPG, 6 APG, 5 RPGLeBron 2006: 31 PPG, 6 APG, 7 RPGI felt Wade's numbers were a bit inflated as well in his second season because of Shaq but it was more of a mix of him improving and Shaq. Judging by those stats LeBron has been the better players throughout his career which leads me to believe you are picking Wade because of his performance in the playoffs this season.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jun 19 2006, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>A healthy Larry Hughes along with Z and Gooden might be better then Jones, Odom and Grant but the fact is he played what? 20 games in the entire season? Wade has always had the better team over LeBron and Van Gundy wasn't a bad coach either.</div>Try 36, and he was healthy all throughout playoffs. Coincidentally, the 3 games he missed Cavs won all 3 vs Pistons...<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Lets see each players stats by seasonsWade 2004: 16 PPG, 4 RPG, 4 APGLeBron 2004: 20 PPG, 5 RPG, 5 APGWade 2005: 24 PPG, 6 APG, 5 RPGLeBron 2005: 27 PPG, 7 APG, 7 RPGWade 2006: 27 PPG, 6 APG, 5 RPGLeBron 2006: 31 PPG, 6 APG, 7 RPGI felt Wade's numbers were a bit inflated as well in his second season because of Shaq but it was more of a mix of him improving and Shaq. Judging by those stats LeBron has been the better players throughout his career which leads me to believe you are picking Wade because of his performance in the playoffs this season.</div>I also felt his numbers were inflated in 2nd season, but I hopped on the bandwagon in last years playoffs. I felt with Shaq injured or not playing he REALLY elevated his game, which showed me 2 things: 1) He can play just as well, possibly even better without Shaq, and 2) He has the killer instinct and ability to take over games, no matter the teammates. This is when I realized just how good the kid is. This year just proved those 2 theories, as Shaq hasn't been himself all year, yet he still dominates, especially at ends of games and when team needs him (just look at how badly he killed the Pistons back in mid-season....17 straight points and game winner...wow).And once again, those numbers are a little misleading. In their rookie seasons, Bron had to be team leader and main option, while Wade wasn't that player until very end of 2003-2004 season. And this season, Wade shoots 5 less shots per game, and both average closer to 7APG than 6APG. If Wade didn't have Shaq on his team, and he put up those 5 extra shots, he'd be up past 30PPG. Lastly, stats don't mean everything, despite this year their stats are about equal IMO. As I said before, minus the PPG, Magic always had better all around stats, but MJ was far better defender, and had that "it" factor that Wade has.As I said before, I have been saying Wade is better ALL season. Just look back at previous topics. I feel he is just more proven in more areas, and stats this year are about equal, and he is better defender, so I feel wade is better player.
Even though i don't agree what you were saying it's nice to see you're lengthy posts again :happy0144:
Even if Larry was healthy, he wasn't anywhere near at 100% and was clearly not the same player Cleveland thought they were getting from the Wizards.Wade can do it without Shaq but then again LeBron can do it without a good second option to help him.LeBron has put up better numbers in his first playoffs then Wade has ever put up in the 3 years he went to the playoffs. I just feel Wade has the luxury of having Shaq on his team and when he doesn't he takes over the games right? Well LeBron has Zydrunas on his side and he basically has to take over every game in order for them to win.Even if Wade did shoot those extra 5 or more shots it doesn't mean he will make them all so it won't be like he will automatically get those 30 points. Lets say Wade does get those extra 5 shots, LeBron will still be better in every other offensive category. Yes Wade is a better defensive player but it's not like LeBron can't learn defense besides, who has Wade guarded against Dallas? Devin Harris? Josh Howard? LeBron lead a worst team to a 50-32 record while Wade lead a team consisting of him and Shaq along with a nice set of role players to a 52-30 record.LeBron is a consistent second option short of making the finals, I think he proved that well this year.
[quote name='Heatfan32' post='94687' date='Jun 19 2006, 09:47 PM']Even if Larry was healthy, he wasn't anywhere near at 100% and was clearly not the same player Cleveland thought they were getting from the Wizards.[/quote]He played well when with Cavs. At end of season with Bron on bench resting up Larry really played well. Agreed, both need a very good player by their side to get anywhere respectable, though, as with every single superstar in the league (to whoever said about Hakeem, he had rising stars in Sam and others, and Duncan had Ginobli, Robinson, Parker, etc...). Actually, no he hasn't. Bron only played 2 series to Wade's 4, and while Bron averaged 2PPG more, his FG% wasn't as good, FT and 3pt % wasn't nearly as good, both averaged exact same amount of APG, Bron has more RPG but Wade has more than 1 TO less per game and has way more SPG and BPG. And no, when Heat need to take over in 4th, other teams just send Shaq to line, as seen in game 5. And Bron's PPG numbers were so good only because he played a TERRIBLE defensive team in Washington. No, he isn't better in every other offensive category. Wade averaged .1 more APG, better FG %, marginally better FT %, etc... Never said Bron can't learn defense, he has all skills necassary. He should take a page out of Wade's book and workout with Kobe over summer to improve D and learn from a first team all defensive player. Worst team? Larry Hughes, Big Z, Gooden, Snow, Marshall, Jones, Flip, Verejao etc all hold their own and way better than say Laker's supporting cast. Heat didn't have a better record due to DRASTIC changes to lineup in offseason, over 20 games without Shaq, and HUGE coaching change..they finally came together in playoffs, and you have to believe they would have had a much better record if Riley was coach from beginning and Shaq was healthy.
[quote name='Nitro1118' post='94711' date='Jun 19 2006, 10:08 PM']He played well when with Cavs. At end of season with Bron on bench resting up Larry really played well.[/quote] The point is that he wasn't reliable, he played decent when he wasn't injured but that doesn't help the fact he missed more then half of the season.[quote name='Nitro1118' post='94711' date='Jun 19 2006, 10:08 PM']Actually, no he hasn't. Bron only played 2 series to Wade's 4, and while Bron averaged 2PPG more, his FG% wasn't as good, FT and 3pt % wasn't nearly as good, both averaged exact same amount of APG, Bron has more RPG but Wade has more than 1 TO less per game and has way more SPG and BPG. And no, when Heat need to take over in 4th, other teams just send Shaq to line, as seen in game 5. And Bron's PPG numbers were so good only because he played a TERRIBLE defensive team in Washington.[/quote] Had wade not shot 60% against the Pistons I'm positive the field goal percentage would've been about equal or in favor of LeBron. Also, if you notice Wade shot 44% against the Bulls who have a solid perimeter defense and is shooting 45% against the Mavs so far, who also have a solid perimeter defense. Wade's 3 point% might have been higher but both are pretty bad and being a better 3 point shooter I don't consider a reason to say why Wade is better then LeBron.[quote name='Nitro1118' post='94711' date='Jun 19 2006, 10:08 PM']No, he isn't better in every other offensive category.[/quote] Every major category that is and they averaged the exact same amount of assists in the playoffs.[quote name='Nitro1118' post='94711' date='Jun 19 2006, 10:08 PM']Worst team? Larry Hughes, Big Z, Gooden, Snow, Marshall, Jones, Flip, Verejao etc all hold their own and way better than say Laker's supporting cast[/quote] When did the Lakers get involved in this? Also you can't compare Hughes and Z to Shaq, Udonis Antoine Walker and Williams, they are decent players and nothing else.
[quote name='Heatfan32' post='94804' date='Jun 19 2006, 11:51 PM']The point is that he wasn't reliable, he played decent when he wasn't injured but that doesn't help the fact he missed more then half of the season.[/quote]Nontheless, the team had a much better winning % with him, and while he was hurt a lot, he was a big factor in winning first series vs Wizards, averaging 12PPG with 4APG, and helping out the load. But he DID shoot 60% against same team Bron shot 44% against. And yes, they doubled Wade just as much as bron. So you don't consider FG %, FT %, 3pt %, SPG, BPG, and TO's as major categories? Give me a break... I was using Lakers as an example. Cavs have better role players than many teams in league, but you said a worst team. Hughes and Z aren't just decent. Yes Hughes has been hurt much of the year, but he was a 16/5/4 guy all year, and Z was a 16/8 guy. Shaq has been a 20/9 guy all year, even when only defended one on one. In Mavs series he is only a 16/9 guy. And yes Haslem, Walker and Williams are decent, as are Flip Murray, Snow, Varejao, Gooden, Marshall and Jones.Oh, and I feel this video is appropriate for this thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5VgViNfY1Q...related&search=
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Jun 20 2006, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So you don't consider FG %, FT %, 3pt %, SPG, BPG, and TO's as major categories?</div> :bat: Every MAJOR OFFENSIVE about the 3 point thing, you would say Peja is better then Wade because he can hit threes? Dampier better then Shaq because he can make free throws? They all matter but some stats aren't as important compared to others.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I was using Lakers as an example. Cavs have better role players than many teams in league, but you said a worst team</div>Yes, the Cavs supporting cast is worst then the Heat's.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>But he DID shoot 60% against same team Bron shot 44% against. And yes, they doubled Wade just as much as bron.</div>Agreed, he just exploded in that series against Detroit but if you notice like I stated before: 44% against the Bulls 45% against the MavsWhat both teams have in common? Good perimeter defense.
The funny thing here is that Nitro is arguing with a Heat fan trying to convince him that his favorite player is better than LeBron. :-D
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ArizonaFan @ Jun 20 2006, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The funny thing here is that Nitro is arguing with a Heat fan trying to convince him that his favorite player is better than LeBron. :-D</div>Former Heat Fan
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jun 20 2006, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>:bat: Every MAJOR OFFENSIVE about the 3 point thing, you would say Peja is better then Wade because he can hit threes? Dampier better then Shaq because he can make free throws? They all matter but some stats aren't as important compared to others.</div>Well, considering he has better FG %, better FT %, and better 3pt %, that basically shows right there why I feel he is better scorer. If you are more efficient in each category, especially over 4 series compared to 2, that tells whole story. All of that just shows that Wade, while has 2PPG less in playoffs, is more efficient in doing it and chances are if he took another 2 or so shots, he'd have more PPG than Bron, or at least over 30PPG. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, the Cavs supporting cast is worst then the Heat's.</div>OHHHHHHH!!!! You mean its worse than the heat's. I thought you meant it was worst, referring to whole league.Yes, it is worse, but definately not much worse, like you think it is. Cavs are one or bench players away from being just as good as Heat's role players. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Agreed, he just exploded in that series against Detroit but if you notice like I stated before: 44% against the Bulls 45% against the MavsWhat both teams have in common? Good perimeter defense.</div>BUT, look at it this way: Wade is taking one more shot in finals than Bron did in season, yet is averaging 35PPG, despite only 45% shooting. That just shows how much he gets to line and how versatile he is. And if it wasn't for his 6-19 shooting performance in Game 2, he'd be shooting 48% for the series.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Jun 20 2006, 12:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, considering he has better FG %, better FT %, and better 3pt %, that basically shows right there why I feel he is better scorer.</div>Back to my old posts, If Dampier shoots a higher free throw percentage he is a better player then Shaq? Also, it still leads me to believe you are making this case because of what he has done in the playoffs this year, you say I'am caught in the "LeBron hype" but I think it's actually the other way around.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>BUT, look at it this way: Wade is taking one more shot in finals than Bron did in season, yet is averaging 35PPG, despite only 45% shooting. That just shows how much he gets to line and how versatile he is. And if it wasn't for his 6-19 shooting performance in Game 2, he'd be shooting 48% for the series.</div>Wade is also shooting 77% from the line in the finals, thats not a great number for a guard to be shooting. Yes, Bron shoots a worst percentage but he is a forward. Your 6-19 shooting is just an IF, had Wade not shot that percentage against Detroit they would've been equal on field goal percentage, but thats just another if.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>if he took another 2 or so shots</div>But he isn't taking another shot, while Wade may be more effiecent LeBron is still the better scorer. He is the better rebounder and puts up more assists per game. Before I can call Wade the better player, I would like to see him do it without Shaq, I don't count the first season either because he wasn't the leader of that team.
