<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Jun 19 2006, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>haha for real? I was actually joking when I said that.</div>Well it all depends on how much they get paid and how good the ref is. Experience is also a factor.
Waqas you get more pathetic after every game in the finals. Will you please just admit that the Mavs arent perfect and lost fair and sqaure. its really pathetic. Why dont you actually blame it on the Mavs mistakes for once. It was Josh howard that called the timeout so they couldnt call one if Wade made it. That couldof cost them the game right there.
Ow okay I don't know how much they get paid. I mean maybe not take of there pay check for every bad call, but for every blank amount of bad calls they make take blank amount of money of there pay check.But w/e this will never happen. lol
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Jun 19 2006, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ow okay I don't know how much they get paid. I mean maybe not take of there pay check for every bad call, but for every blank amount of bad calls they make take blank amount of money of there pay check.But w/e this will never happen. lol</div> Again, if you have Stern taking money out of their checks it would create un needed tention and it would be impossible to judge, just a dumb idea.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jun 19 2006, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Again, if you have Stern taking money out of their checks it would create un needed tention and it would be impossible to judge, just a dumb idea.</div>Why would it be impossible to judge? David Stern can watch the replays how ever many times he want's.Of course it's not to good of a idea taking money from the refs they gotta feed there wife, and kids. I mean they do have family they have to take care of so it's not a good idea taking money from them I guess.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Waqas @ Jun 19 2006, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The refs lied about the Howard situation, so no point in a ref press conference...</div>WHAT?!He made the timeout sign with his hands. His coachs were yelling no. But he did anyways.When a timeout is called, it is called. It cannot be taken back.
Ref's make or don't make calls depending on many variables...ref's already get reviews on what they have done wrong and they work ruthlessly to fix them. You don't fine players $500 for making a turnover...you don't fine a NBA ref for a bad call when they are doing as good of a job as they can.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Asian @ Jun 19 2006, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>WHAT?!He made the timeout sign with his hands. His coachs were yelling no. But he did anyways.When a timeout is called, it is called. It cannot be taken back.</div>LOL really. Howard clearly called timeout. Did you not see Avery Johnson freaking out and getting pissed because of it. He clearly called for a timeout.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jun 19 2006, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LOL really. Howard clearly called timeout. Did you not see Avery Johnson freaking out and getting pissed because of it. He clearly called for a timeout.</div> Your right, and did you see Howards face when he realized what he did? If Howard didn't call that timout you would think he would be pissed off and outraged about it but instead he just walked around with a sad face.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jun 19 2006, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ref's make or don't make calls depending on many variables...ref's already get reviews on what they have done wrong and they work ruthlessly to fix them. You don't fine players $500 for making a turnover...you don't fine a NBA ref for a bad call when they are doing as good of a job as they can.</div>I am not saying fine them for little bad calls. But if it is obvious that they made a really bad call, and you think they are favoring a team then you might wanna fine them. Or fire the once that you see favoring a team. And then if a few get taking care of then others might stop favoring a team if they did before, or were planing to. Because they would know that they would get fired if they started to favor a team.
DUDE, THREE BAD CALLS in 9.1 seconds, man...the timeout situation was a LIE, though. YOU COULD TELL HOWARD DID NOT REQUEST A TIMEOUT TWICE AND HE HAD NO EYE CONTACT. The NBA SAID HOWARD REQUESTED A TIMEOUT TWICE AND HAD EYE CONTACT with DeRoza or something...and wasn't there a BACKCOURT VIOLATION as well?
BCB I don't get why you don't understand that some refs favor a certain player or team. It is human tendency to have a slight bias for a team and it's the same for the refs. To force them to be fair is the way to prevent them from feeling totally safe with their job. Just like a hard foul prevents players from driving to the hoop. Just giving them a hint that favoritism is not tolerated.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Waqas @ Jun 19 2006, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>DUDE, THREE BAD CALLS in 9.1 seconds, man...the timeout situation was a LIE, though. YOU COULD TELL HOWARD DID NOT REQUEST A TIMEOUT TWICE AND HE HAD NO EYE CONTACT. The NBA SAID HOWARD REQUESTED A TIMEOUT TWICE AND HAD EYE CONTACT with DeRoza or something...and wasn't there a BACKCOURT VIOLATION as well?</div>LOL no there was no backcourt vilation and second just admit it!!! Howard stupidly called a timeout. Did you not see Avery Johnsons face. He was yelling at Howard NO NO NO!!! He obviously called timeout. You truly think the refs could say a player called timeout and no one would notice he really didnt.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Waqas @ Jun 19 2006, 06:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>DUDE, THREE BAD CALLS in 9.1 seconds, man...the timeout situation was a LIE, though. YOU COULD TELL HOWARD DID NOT REQUEST A TIMEOUT TWICE AND HE HAD NO EYE CONTACT. The NBA SAID HOWARD REQUESTED A TIMEOUT TWICE AND HAD EYE CONTACT with DeRoza or something...and wasn't there a BACKCOURT VIOLATION as well?</div>Weren't you hearing it by the radio, you probably didn't even bother watching the replay as well, I haven't seen it either but I remember Wade starting at the backcourt and the commentators saying that is legal. Howard did request for a time out but either way, had he made both of his free throws that wouldn't have been as a big as a problem.The only way to fix the NBA right now is to let Dallas cruise away with the championship.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>he timeout situation was a LIE, though. YOU COULD TELL HOWARD DID NOT REQUEST A TIMEOUT TWICE AND HE HAD NO EYE CONTACT. The NBA SAID HOWARD REQUESTED A TIMEOUT TWICE AND HAD EYE CONTACT with DeRoza or something...</div>He did request the timeout. They showed the replay on Sports Center this morning many times. There was no eye contact, but he did put his hands together in the "T" requesting a time out as he was walking back to the bench.
Seriously Waqas lol were you even watching the game??? It sounds like you were just listening to it on the radio or you didnt even follow it at all.
I think Howard was asking the coach if he wants him to call a time out, or not? Or maybe how many time outs they had not sure, but maybe he really was not asking for the time out. He did not look at the ref when showing time out as far as what I saw on the replays. So maybe he really was asking his coach.
The ref wouldn't have called timeout unless he signaled it which Howard did, thats why Howard looked like he sh*t his pants when he realized that he screwed up.
